Ok I’ll probably get trashed for this but….

DSnfla said

And the same guy that hired Payton and signed Brees. And Carr didn't put us in cap hell. SMH It was Payton telling ML what he needed along with Covid and some bad drafting ( also a lot of it Payton) and of course bad luck ( Ram M. Thomas )

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That is a really good point and something that gets overlooked a ton. That was two big giant lead weights couple that with Brees retiring and Payton quiting that’s an intense run of messed up circumstances. That series of events would put any franchise in a tailspin.

At least Ryan had 2 solid seasons and MT 1 before injuries just destroyed their playing careers.

Where Loomis can be faulted is he didn’t have a plan B and has struggled to pivot.