I don't use the word terrible lightly, and I don't call players terrible. I'm saying that the draft value of Ruiz was terrible, for the results we got. He wasn't very good his first two years. Not what you'd expect from a 1st round pick. And Penning, even this offseason looked like he was going to be a bust. I don't care about fan buzz. What I'm saying is that the Saints need to have a "hit", at any position - to win games because the Saints just don't have the horses to impact the game outside of a couple of aging players. And if the Saints are still looking for an impact players 2 years from now, we will be looking for a new coach again.