Mike Garafolo: Saints are set to make a decision on Derek Carr within the next few weeks; likely to have multiple suitors if released

RaisingTheBar said
The Stafford example proves my point. He’s better than Carr, yet their avg salary is the same and he’s a SB winning QB. Stafford at least got to the playoffs 3 times in Detroit and more with the rams.

I don’t care what fans argue, Jameis didn’t make the playoffs here. 5-2 start is great but that’s not a lock we would have finished just as strong. Carr started 2-0 this season than lost what 4 straight?

Coaches, coordinators and teammates matter? Had no idea. I think that’s petty obvious, however when the leader of the team has gone through numerous coaches and coordinators a theme starts to develop.

I’m not saying he’s bad. I’m not saying he’s good. He’s just a solid NFL QB. However, and this was what my post was in response to, don’t ask me what else do fans expect Carr to do like he’s done everything expected when he’s been to the post season once in 11 years.

You misunderstood my point if you think that the Stafford example proves your point. Why did Stafford win the Super Bowl in year 1 with the Rams after not having any more playoff wins than a guy like Derek Carr in over a decade? Was it a drastic change in Stafford that created the drastic change in playoff success?

As for the Jameis thing, I think you missed the point there as well. The level of coaching by Payton had Jameis "fixed' from his past problems and headed in the right direction. No one here would put Dennis Allen (coach of the first 9 games this past season) anywhere near the same level as Payton in terms of keeping a ship righted. That's the point. Jameis finally had a great head coach and the difference was stark. Did Carr get that when he made the jump from his previous team to here?

I never said you thought Carr was a bad QB. I just don't think his two years here can be used as any kind of optimal situation in which we could have seen him show what he could truly do. And if his time is up here with that being all, then so be it. That will just be how things worked out for him.

CowtownSaint said
You can’t seriously be comparing Stanford to Carr? Stanford is the opposite of Carr in every intangible and character trait possible.

Is that really what you took from my post? Seriously? Nothing about being an example of what an upgrade in environment (team, coaching, surrounding talent) can do for a QB? None of that? Just Carr = Stafford is what you thought I was saying?