Cap Implications of Keeping and Cutting Derek Carr
Here’s my take on the starting to evaluate thing. Your approach is the approach of what a university student excepts to happen once getting their degree.
That's objectively false and a flawed metaphorical comparison. The Saints, like all NFL teams, evaluate every player on the roster all the time, but they don't start all of them.
Or to put it another way, every NFL team evaluates every player they have, regardless of if they start or not.
Now circling back to Carr, you mentioned he will be able to give us a playoff window.
I said the best chance of the QB's currently on the roster. You're not replying to what I actually said.
Nothing any team does can guarantee they will make the playoffs. No team has complete control over that. What they do have control over is building the best team they can to give themselves the best chance at the playoffs.
The Saints could go 0-17 this year and then pick the best QB candidate in next year's draft. From there, that QB could end up a complete bust or sustain an injury their rookie year that they don't fully come back from.
No strategy is guaranteed to work and no team knows what needs they will have two seasons from now. You build the beast team you can now giving significant consideration to the future.
Getting the top pick in the draft to get one of the top QB's has not worked out as much as it has. A team does not have to have a top 10 QB pick to get a QB in the draft that they can win with.
You can’t say Carr is better than his record because of injuries and in next breath say Rattler hasn’t shown anything, while dealing with same depth issues.
Then I guess it's a good thing that I never did that. Win loss record has nothing to do with my impression of Carr or Rattler. I think Carr gives the Saints a better chance to win based on how they both have played this past season.
I only mentioned the win loss records to point out that the Saints have won with Carr and they have not won with Rattler, so if win-loss is your metric, then it's irrational to want Rattler over Carr.
When you have to start using double standards and making excuses because your criteria leads to a different conclusion than you've drawn, then you aren't using rational logic. You are rationalizing a belief you already have.
I would make 100% argument that Rattler gives the team a better chance to win based on demeanour alone. Even if it’s just for a year, no matter what happens, this Saints team will be better off in 2026 if we start Rattler or someone other than Carr. It will provide clarity and perspective.
I think demeanor is very over rated and it's completely subjective. Some of the QB's with the highest amount of "moxie" have had the least success which is why I think it's very overrated.
Look, you've clearly stated your opinion, just like everyone else has. I'm pretty sure Moore doesn't care about our opinions. If he wants Carr, he'll keep him. If he keeps Carr, it's because he wants Carr. The same is true for which ever QB he decides to go with.
I can’t stress this enough, we need to stop being in denial, the playoff window is CLOSED...
It's delusional to think that anyone can know that right now. Based on everything Moore and Loomis have said, it appears they disagree with you. I guess the Saints are in denial too?