I agree 100%. There can't be a discussion about nearly any topic without "who cares, Carr sucks and Loomis is terrible". Maybe we need to have a thread were everyone puts themselves as Anti-Carr or Anti-Loomis and then we can look back at that thread if we need to know how you feel. Otherwise, we can't maybe not mention how they both suck in EVERY thread. Or give constructive thoughts. Some people on here can express their dissenting opinion with respect but most just go with "Carr suck, Carr go away".