They both very clearly said that they don't think it's the wrong way to go, it's just the way they'd like the team to go.
They both very clearly pointed out that to do like the Commanders you have to be like the Commanders and spend years as a very bad team before you get lucky. The Commanders have been bad for a long time.
So you're ready for the Saints to be as bad or worse than they were last year for five or more years?