Underhill thinks Carr will be Saints starter [mod edit: Moore-Carr meeting went well; Saints plan is to keep Carr in 2025 & figure out contract]

Ghost said

That's all well and good, but not the point I was refuting.

The claim was a selection of HOF QBs "...that have losing records ???" stated twice as fact, when it was not backed up by facts.

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I get that, but aren't you making that point in support of the bigger point that a QB can be accurately graded by the win-loss record of their team?

That's not how the people who work for NFL teams evaluate QB's. A QB can play better or worse than their team's win-loss record. Brees played a whole lot better than the win-loss records of a lot of his seasons. A lot of QB's do. The opposite is also true at times.