Ukraine

DaveXA said
The other half of the country needs to get their head out their arses. Just feels like they'd rather destroy the country than admit they are/were wrong.

There’s admitting you were wrong (which is hard enough for many)

Then there’s admitting you were wrong after people told, begged, warned and screamed about how wrong it would be and how wrong it would go

In that situation a lot of people would absolutely triple down and go down with the ship