Who would you take at #9 in this scenario

How many of these guys where studs before him?

Mack had 10, 11, and 15 sacks the year prior. Mack was already him before.


Had 4 and 4.5 sacks the two years prior.

Was already a multiple time all pro before.

Floyd's breakout year. This example 100% fits your narrative.

This fits as well.


Yeah i'm not gonna keep saying the same thing. All of these guys but two performed at a similar or better level before he arrived. Difficult for me to give him credit for that.
No narrative there. That’s simply the starting OLB production history under Staley. He’s consistently coached steady—top production from his starting OLBs. Their numbers, along with the Saints top 2 pass rushers’ ‘23-‘24 seasons, gives an idea of a potential floor-ceiling for the Saints’ two starting OLBs with Staley.

Floyd and Tuipolotu fits your narrative or answer your question about who did Staley make a difference with. He was in charge of a unit or team for only 7 years.
A 2 year position coach and 1 year DC can only coach the personnel that he’s given.

Staley can’t be discredited or knocked for coming into a promotion with existing productive players. Their production didn’t dip with him.

OLB only has two starters while a secondary has 4 starters who frequently changes every few years at 2-3 of the DB spots. Dennis Allen will have an extensive history with a variety of productive DBs since he’s been a DB coach, DC, and HC for 17 years. Staley has ran a unit at different levels for only 7 years. He didn’t have say in personnel until the last 3 of those 7 years. As HC he went with a familiar face at 1 of the other OLB spots and overseen him produce a career high 17 sack year.