“Several” Watson Accusers Will Be Interviewed On Real Sports (2 Viewers)

[Poison]

Just a reminder that the presumption of innocence, which is a right that exists in the legal system when a person is charged with a criminal offence, is not some sort of shield to the NFL sanctioning him for misconduct (or a shield to any criticism here, which some people apparently think it should be).

Sexual assault cases are *very* difficult to prosecute. If you have two people in a room, no witnesses, no physical evidence (bruising, etc, which is not the nature of the alleged offending here) and one person (Watson) saying he did not know that the other person was not consenting, a conviction is highly unlikely.

The key point is you have approximately 22 individual complainants. An obvious pattern of misconduct which is already seemingly capable of verification on the balance of probabilities (the standard of proof likely to be required in any NFL investigation), based on the text message correspondence that has already emerged.

Watson will absolutely be disciplined by the NFL regardless of whether he is ever convicted. So he should be. I’m glad he’s nowhere near our organisation.

 

[sainthood]

 

[Lendro Furioso]

You believe in innocent until proven guilty but then expect an apology from him which would mean you think he's guilty. SMH

Read what I actually wrote. He may not be guilty of criminal conduct, but he has admitted to reprehensible behaviour, which he should definitely apologise for publicly. Who goes flying around the country after instagram massage therapists? That is Grade A creep material even if he didn't force himself on the women.

 

[Saint Kamara]

Who is DeNarc?

 

[St. Pike]

When two grand juries decline to return an indictment, it's brought to the court of public opinion.

That about sums it up. Sometimes, this backfires.

Just a reminder that the presumption of innocence, which is a right that exists in the legal system when a person is charged with a criminal offence, is not some sort of shield to the NFL sanctioning him for misconduct (or a shield to any criticism here, which some people apparently think it should be).

Sexual assault cases are *very* difficult to prosecute. If you have two people in a room, no witnesses, no physical evidence (bruising, etc, which is not the nature of the alleged offending here) and one person (Watson) saying he did not know that the other person was not consenting, a conviction is highly unlikely.

The key point is you have approximately 22 individual complainants. An obvious pattern of misconduct which is already seemingly capable of verification on the balance of probabilities (the standard of proof likely to be required in any NFL investigation), based on the text message correspondence that has already emerged.

Watson will absolutely be disciplined by the NFL regardless of whether he is ever convicted. So he should be. I’m glad he’s nowhere near our organisation.

What exactly is he being suspended for? Just because something is "difficult" to prove doesn't mean that they are actually "guilty" of anything. It would be a dangerous precedent if the league would suspend players based solely on an accusation. Imagine someone coming into your place of work and making all sorts of accusations ad your boss just suspends you on that alone.


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[guidomerkinsrules]

That about sums it up. Sometimes, this backfires.



What exactly is he being suspended for? Just because something is "difficult" to prove doesn't mean that they are actually "guilty" of anything. It would be a dangerous precedent if the league would suspend players based solely on an accusation. Imagine someone coming into your place of work and making all sorts of accusations ad your boss just suspends you on that alone.


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(One of the many) problems fir the NFL is that, reportedly, their internal investigation was a hamfisted mess
Seemingly Houston pd did a much better job of interviewing victims

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

Yup, really glad we didn't mortgage the farm for this guy

We did. He just chose another over us lol.

 

[Poison]

That about sums it up. Sometimes, this backfires.



What exactly is he being suspended for? Just because something is "difficult" to prove doesn't mean that they are actually "guilty" of anything. It would be a dangerous precedent if the league would suspend players based solely on an accusation. Imagine someone coming into your place of work and making all sorts of accusations ad your boss just suspends you on that alone.


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You are joking right?

Employers suspend employees all the time pending the outcome of an investigation.

If an employee is alleged to have engaged in gross misconduct, particularly where that represents a potential occupational hazard (e.g. an allegation they sexually harassed another employee), employers will routinely suspend the employee pending the outcome of the investigation. This is a feature of most employer disciplinary policies.

What you have described happens in workplaces everywhere.

 

[SweetT]

Scuttlebutt is this dude may get a lengthy suspension

 

[sammymvpknight]

Scuttlebutt is this dude may get a lengthy suspension

Let him play this year, then let us suspension start indefinitely 2023.

 

[HogsNSaints]

I am interested to see some actual women sit down and discuss. To date it has not seemed authentic because there’s been so many allegations with no faces of the accusers, aside from a very shady lawyer that tried to settle for a large sum of hush money.

 

[JPSaints87]

I will admit that I was part of the Watson's sweepstakes hype but looking back at it now, Im so glad that we dodged a MAJOR bullet. With the dodge, we managed to get both Honey Badger & Landry on smart, friendly deals.

 

[efil4stnias]

I am interested to see some actual women sit down and discuss. To date it has not seemed authentic because there’s been so many allegations with no faces of the accusers, aside from a very shady lawyer that tried to settle for a large sum of hush money.

Have you ever sued someone with deep pockets?

Lawyers attempt to settle (usually the defendant side) for myriad of reasons. Usually the plaintiff side settles for a myriad of reasons.

Hush money is what Trump paid Stormy.

You don't give up high 5 or 6 figures to hush someone. You give them high 5 or 6 figures because your counsels' calculations tell you too.

 

[BayouSAINTJoe]

I will admit that I was part of the Watson's sweepstakes hype but looking back at it now, Im so glad that we dodged a MAJOR bullet. With the dodge, we managed to get both Honey Badger & Landry on smart, friendly deals.

And draft Olave & Penning....and retain a star player perhaps

 

[St. Pike]

You are joking right?

Employers suspend employees all the time pending the outcome of an investigation.

If an employee is alleged to have engaged in gross misconduct, particularly where that represents a potential occupational hazard (e.g. an allegation they sexually harassed another employee), employers will routinely suspend the employee pending the outcome of the investigation. This is a feature of most employer disciplinary policies.

What you have described happens in workplaces everywhere.

No, it doesn't. You talking about misconduct in the workplace. Watson was never accused of that, so why you thought that is what I meant is a mystery.


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