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Edit: I'm aware Smith went back to school. Not editing it out though.

I'm ready for the Senior Bowl and beyond already. I'll be spending most of my Sundays watching videos on players who catch my eye.

Easy targets are guys like DeVonta Smith from Alabama. Great speed. Catches everything. And is a big play waiting to happen. Would do well opposite Michael Thomas.


Another guy on defense I'm learning more about is Hamsah Nasirildeen. 6'4", 216lbs. Sideline to sideline speed with hips almost like a corner. Imagine Obi Melifonwu but with actual instincts and a much harder hitter. It's like this guy was hand crafted for me to fall in love with as a player. Only flaw is he's coming off an injury, but that might be exactly what allows him to slide to the 2nd or 3rd day. I can see him lining up all over the place to cause trouble for offenses. He's not even a head hunter. He gets low and explodes through the ball carrier. Forced a few fumbles at Florida State.



Who is everyone else keeping a close eye on as we transition to the offseason?
 
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Everything is too scheme-dependent to make sweeping statements like that.

The 260lb Donta Hightowers of the world can still find a role as a downhill strongside guy inside of a 3-4 Just like Vaughn Johnson could back in the day.
I don't think it's too farfetched of a statement considering recent trends, how the game has changed in the last 20 or so years and taking an educated guess at where it's going In the near future.

How many NFL teams currently even run a true 3-4 Defense with a massive space eating 0 - tech and Two 5 - techs that predominantly two gap with two bigger downhill Inside backers who are expected to take on blocks in between the tackles?

1-2? Belichick still runs that scheme for the most part, I guess Crennel did in Houston but their front personnel is expected to change up a bit next season.

These odd front teams are going towards the way of a Wink Martindale, or modern day Gregg Williams style fronts.. the chaotic, versatile fronts where you have Defenders lining up all over the place, in different stances on any given play to better disguise looks and confuse Offenses.

I guess to a less extreme degree Yes guys like Donta Hightower still have their place on some teams, but that style of Linebacker is becoming ever more so 'less useful' in today's NFL. If you're strictly a 2 down player in today's game, can only play in one direction, and are a liability on Passing downs... you just can't justify spending a Day 1 pick on a player like that. That's why it is my belief every year you are going to start seeing the bigger 'thumper' style Linebackers from college go later, and later in the Draft. 5th, 6th, 7th rounds. The way of the future for Linebacker proto-types are the Deion Jones, Darius Leonard, Devin White, Kwon Alexander, Telvin Smith, Roquan Smith... type of players.
 
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If the linebacker position was as simple as getting a fast athlete that can cover and run, just find a rangy safety and make the positional conversion. It’s not that simple. The NFL is about innovation and exploitation and as soon as you see a commitment to 220 pound LBs, you’ll see the 49ers throw the ball 8 times and rush for 350 yards a game.

Shaq Quarterman reminds me so much of Demario Davis.
 

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Any small school guys you all are looking at outside of Duggar? I like Chinn. Also really high on Alex Highsmith. His get off is incredible.



Dane Brugler (@dpbrugler) Tweeted:
Clemson's Jackson Carman is one of CFB's top up-and-coming left tackles. And he wasn't shy in his praise for #Charlotte EDGE Alex Highsmith.

“I’ve been playing football for 12 years and he’s by far the fastest off the ball I’ve ever gone against. Ever.”


 

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Any small school guys you all are looking at outside of Duggar? I like Chinn. Also really high on Alex Highsmith. His get off is incredible.
I like Akeem Davis-Gaither from Appalachian State, one of the more athletic Linebacker prospects in this draft.

Tight Ends I like Harrison Bryant from Florida Atlantic, and Adam Trautman from Dayton.

Like Chinn as well, I think he could be like a 'Vonn Bell' box safety type, but with more coverage ability and the versatility to match up in the slot some.

Low key kinda like Kindle Vildor from Georgia Southern, he held up pretty well in coverage at the Senior Bowl. If he's around in the late rounds might be worth a flyer.
 

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I’ve spent the weekend watching QBs.. I wanted to do a top 10 QB thread, but being perfectly honest I don’t think there are 10 QBs worthy of being drafted in this class. It’s not necessarily a “bad” class because I think 5 guys could end up being NFL starters. But it’s shallow and the developmental talent is lacking. My top 8 (the 8 I’d see as draft-worthy are:

1. Joe Burrow
2. Tua Tagovailoa
3. Justin Herbert
4. Jake Fromm
5. Cole McDonald
6. Jacob Eason
7. Jordan Love
8. Shea Patterson
 

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You don't think Anthony Gordon is at least worth a Draft pick?

I would put Gordon in the same tier with Fromm maybe slightly lower, in that he has a solid floor. Could be a game manager type QB, he has some confidence and poise and experience throwing the ball at high volume attempts. He has shown the ability to stay in and take a hit to convert a 3rd down, and has decent accuracy on short to intermediate throws.

for instance if he goes to a team like the Steelers he would instantly be a better Emergency plan than Duck Hodges, or Mason Rudolph. I honestly wouldn't even mind taking him if he's still around in the 5th round.


To me Burrow, and Tua (given healthy) are the only true "franchise" Quarterbacks in this Draft; and they should both presumably go top 3.

IMO people are way too high on Herbert... I have him with a 2nd round grade personally; but I understand Quarterbacks rise and get valued at a premium so it won't surprise me to see him go top 15. Just didn't see enough from him in big time pressure situations against good teams. He has the physical tools but was very sheltered in a bubble screen Offense, that focused on the run. I think he's going to be a Ryan Tannehill / to Andy Dalton level QB.

Jordan Love & Eason... ehh not too big on. To me they are just guys with big time arms with questionable decision making. These guys will need a lot of patient coaching and development, but some teams will fall in love with their throwing velocity.

Everyone else back-up material, developmental. Practice squad, camp arms.
 
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You don't think Anthony Gordon is at least worth a Draft pick?

I would put Gordon in the same tier with Fromm maybe slightly lower, in that he has a solid floor. Could be a game manager type QB, he has some confidence and poise and experience throwing the ball at high volume attempts. He has shown the ability to stay in and take a hit to convert a 3rd down, and has decent accuracy on short to intermediate throws.

for instance if he goes to a team like the Steelers he would instantly be a better Emergency plan than Duck Hodges, or Mason Rudolph. I honestly wouldn't even mind taking him if he's still around in the 5th round.


To me Burrow, and Tua (given healthy) are the only true "franchise" Quarterbacks in this Draft; and they should both presumably go top 3.

IMO people are way too high on Herbert... I have him with a 2nd round grade personally; but I understand Quarterbacks rise and get valued at a premium so it won't surprise me to see him go top 15. Just didn't see enough from him in big time pressure situations against good teams. He has the physical tools but was very sheltered in a bubble screen Offense, that focused on the run. I think he's going to be a Ryan Tannehill / to Andy Dalton level QB.

Jordan Love & Eason... ehh not too big on. To me they are just guys with big time arms with questionable decision making. These guys will need a lot of patient coaching and development, but some teams will fall in love with their throwing velocity.

Everyone else back-up material, developmental. Practice squad, camp arms.
To me the top 3 are all top 10 worthy.

I think Burrow is the best QB prospect, at least since I’ve invested a lot of time into watching prospects (2015). He might as well get fitted for his Bengal equipment.

Tua is an elite prospect as well IMO. As effortless a touch passer as I’ve seen. That quick release and the way he hums the ball accurately downfield is magical. He throws the ball like Russell Wilson, but I would argue that he’s able to put air under the deep ball in a way that outshines Russ. He’s not as mobile or capable outside the pocket, which is a major aspect of Wilson’s game. But man, the arm is special.

I saw a lot of what you saw from Herbert, but I actually think he was miscast in that Oregon offense. It’s a system that takes a lot of the pressure off the QB in where to go with the ball, but nothing suggests Herbert doesn’t have it between the ears to excel when more is thrown at him. His arm is great as well. I’ve seen him throw all over the field, and do it accurately. He looked at his best in the Senior Bowl, and I think that will win him a top 10 draft selection. He will probably live to that grade.

Fromm’s ceiling is limited, but he can be an average starter because he makes great decisions and has great short to intermediate accuracy. I also think the play calling and WRs for Georgia crushed him this season. Not exciting but he can definitely be a starter within the right offense.

I think Minshew Mania has won Mike Leach some favor that will turn to ashes in a short time. Not insinuating that Anthony Gordon doesn’t have some decent attributes, I just think that system makes guys look far better than they are. Minshew bucked the lack of translatable skill a bit, and maybe Gordon learns to throw with anticipation and look off defenders at the next level. I’m just skeptical.

I will admit I’m kind of interested in Nathan Rourke from Ohio. I mostly wanted to watch the passing aspects of these QBs, and when I did Rourke was top 10 in the class to me.. That was without regard for his rushing prowess, which is a lot of his game. I want to see him throw at the combine and see if he pops out.
 

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Jordan Love had a shot to be a first round pick going into the season. Was pretty disappointing statistically, but not any worse than someone like Josh Allen in his final year at Wyoming. Love and Cole McDonald are intriguing project QBs. NFL arms for sure, I think it will come down to throwing with anticipation and decision making for both of those guys.

Absolutely

I don't have much confidence in love.

He's athletic, and has some impressive arm talent.

But, that's about it with him. He lacks all the intangibles, and other tools needed to be a QB at the next level.

Some desperate team is going to take a shot at him in the first round and I think that is way to high to pick him.

As long as it's not us, I'm okay with it
 

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I don't think it's too farfetched of a statement considering recent trends, how the game has changed in the last 20 or so years and taking an educated guess at where it's going In the near future.

How many NFL teams currently even run a true 3-4 Defense with a massive space eating 0 - tech and Two 5 - techs that predominantly two gap with two bigger downhill Inside backers who are expected to take on blocks in between the tackles?

1-2? Belichick still runs that scheme for the most part, I guess Crennel did in Houston but their front personnel is expected to change up a bit next season.

These odd front teams are going towards the way of a Wink Martindale, or modern day Gregg Williams style fronts.. the chaotic, versatile fronts where you have Defenders lining up all over the place, in different stances on any given play to better disguise looks and confuse Offenses.

I guess to a less extreme degree Yes guys like Donta Hightower still have their place on some teams, but that style of Linebacker is becoming ever more so 'less useful' in today's NFL. If you're strictly a 2 down player in today's game, can only play in one direction, and are a liability on Passing downs... you just can't justify spending a Day 1 pick on a player like that. That's why it is my belief every year you are going to start seeing the bigger 'thumper' style Linebackers from college go later, and later in the Draft. 5th, 6th, 7th rounds. The way of the future for Linebacker proto-types are the Deion Jones, Darius Leonard, Devin White, Kwon Alexander, Telvin Smith, Roquan Smith... type of players.
I get hat you're saying but Dion Jones's don't grow on trees yet and I'm pretty sure that guys like Curtis Lofton or Donta Hightower will still find a role somewhere even though they likely wont be drafted highly anymore.

Im betting that there are many desperate teams who don't have the option of a Dieon Jones who would leap at the opportunity to draft a guy like Lofton in the Middle rounds.
 

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You don't think Anthony Gordon is at least worth a Draft pick?

I would put Gordon in the same tier with Fromm maybe slightly lower, in that he has a solid floor. Could be a game manager type QB, he has some confidence and poise and experience throwing the ball at high volume attempts. He has shown the ability to stay in and take a hit to convert a 3rd down, and has decent accuracy on short to intermediate throws.

for instance if he goes to a team like the Steelers he would instantly be a better Emergency plan than Duck Hodges, or Mason Rudolph. I honestly wouldn't even mind taking him if he's still around in the 5th round.


To me Burrow, and Tua (given healthy) are the only true "franchise" Quarterbacks in this Draft; and they should both presumably go top 3.

IMO people are way too high on Herbert... I have him with a 2nd round grade personally; but I understand Quarterbacks rise and get valued at a premium so it won't surprise me to see him go top 15. Just didn't see enough from him in big time pressure situations against good teams. He has the physical tools but was very sheltered in a bubble screen Offense, that focused on the run. I think he's going to be a Ryan Tannehill / to Andy Dalton level QB.

Jordan Love & Eason... ehh not too big on. To me they are just guys with big time arms with questionable decision making. These guys will need a lot of patient coaching and development, but some teams will fall in love with their throwing velocity.

Everyone else back-up material, developmental. Practice squad, camp arms.
All I know is from what I saw Anthony Gordon outplayed Jordon Love at the Senior Bowl
 

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All I know is from what I saw Anthony Gordon outplayed Jordon Love at the Senior Bowl
Jordan Love’s arc is almost an exact retelling of Josh Allen’s out of Wyoming. Small school with a desirable arm, that won a ton of favor in his second to last college season. Fantastic arm strength, athleticism and an extremely high ceiling. He had some head scratchers in his final season, again not unlike Allen. Josh Allen was outplayed at the Senior Bowl by the likes of Kyle Lauletta and Mike White. I think once teams see him launch the ball and test at the combine, a team will fall in love with Love’s physical traits in the same way the Bills hitched themselves to Allen.
 

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Jordan Love’s arc is almost an exact retelling of Josh Allen’s out of Wyoming. Small school with a desirable arm, that won a ton of favor in his second to last college season. Fantastic arm strength, athleticism and an extremely high ceiling. He had some head scratchers in his final season, again not unlike Allen. Josh Allen was outplayed at the Senior Bowl by the likes of Kyle Lauletta and Mike White. I think once teams see him launch the ball and test at the combine, a team will fall in love with Love’s physical traits in the same way the Bills hitched themselves to Allen.
Josh Allen sucks, though.
 

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