3 reasons Teddy Bridgewater isn’t the answer - Roy Anderson @ Who Dat Dish nails it (2 Viewers)

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Past success not what it seemed to be
I’ve been hearing it a lot this year and last year when the Saints first signed Teddy Bridgewater. He’s a really good quarterback, maybe great, who caught a bad hand in Minnesota. In his first year with the Vikings, 2014, he was named Offensive Rookie of the Year after coming in and starting 12 games.
You have to wonder how he won that award only accumulating a 6-6 record and throwing for 2,919 yards with 14 TDs to 12 INTs. Seriously, those aren’t very impressive numbers for a quarterback. He did have 209 yards rushing but even then, that’s not earth-shattering. Alvin Kamara had a more impressive rookie season.
Then Bridgewater was a starter for a full season in 2015 throwing for 3,231 yards, 14 TDs and nine interceptions. Again, very pedestrian numbers but he went to the Pro Bowl because the Vikings were 11-5.
None of those numbers are impressive by NFL standards.


The skillset isn’t there

I tweeted during the game on Sunday that Teddy Bridgewater put too much mustard on his passes and had to explain that term to a younger watcher. That’s an old school term meaning he puts too much on his passes. Like putting too much mustard on your Lucky Dog. It’ll make your jaw lock up.
One thing you might have heard a lot of in defense of Teddy Bridgewater following that Rams game was the number of dropped passes. But you have to understand that these players have been catching passes from Drew Brees all offseason.
Drew Brees throws one of the most catchable balls in the NFL. That means he puts just the right amount of heat into a throw to get it softly into the hands, to a point on the field or into the numbers of his receiver. They don’t have to stretch too much. It’s not coming in like a hot potato.


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The Saints defense isn’t good enough for whoever is QB to play to not lose. If the Saints don’t want to go 0-6 until Brees returns, the QB is going to have to actively make plays. The running game doesn’t get 50 yards without the threat of the pass and the defense isn’t going to shut anyone down without the offense sustaining drives.
Just to clarify, I didn't say "play not to lose". I said not lose the game, meaning missing receivers, getting sacked because he holds the ball too long, throwing INTs, not being able to read the defense, etc.
 

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There have been quite a few backup QB hero stories throughout NFL history where guys didn't look so hot before tearing it up - Jim Plunkett comes to mind, among others.
Tom Brady comes to mind, too. Ask Drew Bledsoe.
There are also stories like Matt Flynn, Brad Johnson, Scott Mitchell, Matt Cassel, Elvis Grbac, etc etc etc who came in as back ups, lit it up, the fizzle out when given the starter position.

You can find examples either way.
 

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I was pretty critical of Teddy’s play in the Rams game. But, he deserves his chance to prove himself with a full week of prep as the starter and a game plan designed around his strengths.

I’m not sold on Teddy but I’m cautiously optimistic he can put it together and have a good game this weekend. I think Payton can bring a few new wrinkles in and perhaps confuse Seattle. No one knows what a Brees-less Sean Payton offense will really look like. I’m pulling for Teddy and hope he surprises us all
 
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One of SPs first acts as a Saints head coach was to cut Aaron Brooks. There wasn’t a moment of hesitation there.
I don't think he cut AB bcuz he thought he was bad necessarily. IMO he did it bcuz he simply favored Drew n was gonna go after him. AB wasn't nearly as bad as some made him out to be
 

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I think there are fair criticisms to make of Bridgewater. I thought he was slow in his decision making and put too much on some of his throws. Neither of those are really unexpected from a guy who didn’t accumulate a lot of time in the NFL before having to miss significant time and come back from a major injury.

But the problem I have is you’ve got people acting like Hill isn’t a work in progress, too. Maybe it’s because they are used to seeing him on the field (in regular season games so far, he hasn’t looked great throwing the ball [3-7 with an interception]) but I’m not sure how any fan could form conclusive opinions about either player yet.

Hill had some good moments this preseason but remember that disaster of a game last year, and fans were convinced his hands were too small to ever succeed at this level?

I said it in another post that I like both players but I think both have work to do to reach their full potential. Right now Payton seems to favor Bridgewater at this point in his development but it might also be true that Hill is the guy he’s favoring long term. We will know eventually.

I’m hoping both of them can get better and help this team win some games.
to be fair when he's thrown the ball those 7 times, i bet all those throws were deep throws or gadjets. i doubt he had a traditional drop back in any of them
 

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to be fair when he's thrown the ball those 7 times, i bet all those throws were deep throws or gadjets. i doubt he had a traditional drop back in any of them
I’m not meaning to over emphasize that - just pointing out it’s a part of the very little we have to consider, in imagining Taysom as the starter right now.

People might be down on Teddy, and I understand that, but Taysom is mostly an unknown. A lot of the optimism about him isn’t well founded yet (either, if it’s really necessary to acknowledge the same about Teddy). He’s exciting - so was Fourcade.

I’m not knocking either one of these guys other than to continue pointing out that it’s likely neither has reached their ceiling on this team, and Payton indicates he thinks highly of them both.
 

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What's my gut telling me? That TB will struggle. Having said that, I do have faith in Payton to make the right call, and this seems to be it.
 

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Unless anyone thinks we can win with about 50% completions - about 180 yards - about 1 TD.... and maybe 14 - 20 points a game... consistently.... then NO... Teddy isn't the answer... cause that's who he is.
 

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No QB not named Brees will be successful in the Saints offense if the Saints can't run the ball better. Honestly, besides the injury to Drew, that was my biggest disappointment in the Rams game - more so than even the crappy refs. Carolina ran the ball real well against the Rams.
The only issue there was once Drew went out, they were basically putting the whole defense in the box and forcing TB to beat them with his arm.
 

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I’d be more concerned about what that might indicate about Hill.
If Payton truly believes he's the Steve Young of the Future or whatever he said, I think Payton wants to put as little on film possible showing Hill's improvement at QB since he's a RFA after this season and it could cause a QB desperate team to offer him money we couldn't match if Drew comes back next year. IMO, if he thought TB was the future, he'd have signed him to more than a one year deal to at least spread out his $7MM cap hit. Maybe just even two years. IDK. The length of his contract leads me to believe he wants to keep developing Hill regardless of Drew playing or not next year. If Drew doesn't play next year, and Hill makes the same strides he did this year from last, he'll be a pretty good QB.
 
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The only issue there was once Drew went out, they were basically putting the whole defense in the box and forcing TB to beat them with his arm.
Yes I agree. I'm concerned with Brees out our O Line and RBs still need to be able to get 3 to 4 yards and a cloud of dust even with the box stacked - not giving up TFL or just gaining 1 to 2 yards. I hope this was a short week, west coast travel thing re the O line and RBs.
 

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This offense is built around Brees and his strengths. The gameplan was set when Bridgewater came in, and at that point it really can’t be changed. Payton knows what Bridgewater can do well, and I’m sure this week has been tweaking the heck out of the offense to fit Bridgewater’s strengths better.

Or at least that’s what I hope
I really thought we were told that we signed Bridgewater because he could run the same game plan as Drew. I mean, he's in all the same QB meetings, knows the routes the receivers are running, etc.. He should have been mentally prepared to go into that game having been a part of the game plan all week leading up to the game and he was not.

I'm totally pulling for TB this week and every week he's playing QB, but I want to see improvements, and kinda fast. He's a vet after all.
 

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If Payton truly believes he's the Steve Young of the Future or whatever he said, I think Payton wants to put as little on film possible showing Hill's improvement at QB since he's a RFA after this season and it could cause a QB desperate team to offer him money we couldn't match if Drew comes back next year. IMO, if he though TB was the future, he'd have signed him to more than a one year deal to at least spread out his $7MM cap hit. Maybe just even two years. IDK. The length of his contract leads me to believe he wants to keep developing Hill regardless of Drew playing or not next year. If Drew doesn't play next year, and Hill makes the same strides he did this year from last, he'll be a pretty good QB.
It’s heady praise, but from the quotes I’ve seen, Payton is making the comparison as much for the athleticism and late start to his career. He called it “creating a vision” for a player. I think it works on those conditions, but we really don’t know how close Hill is to having Payton’s confidence to be a starter.
 

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I really thought we were told that we signed Bridgewater because he could run the same game plan as Drew. I mean, he's in all the same QB meetings, knows the routes the receivers are running, etc.. He should have been mentally prepared to go into that game having been a part of the game plan all week leading up to the game and he was not.

I'm totally pulling for TB this week and every week he's playing QB, but I want to see improvements, and kinda fast. He's a vet after all.
I’m trying to be positive
 

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Aikman noted it. They were putting 8 men in the box because they simply didn't respect Bridgewater's passing ability. Perhaps he proves all the doubters wrong this weekend? But I need to see it.
Aikmans an idiot but he was right on that observation. I don't think it was just Bridgewater though, McCoy and backup G Clapp simply couldn't block Donald, they knew they could get almost immediate pressure much of the time....it's difficult to throw downfield under those conditions....
 

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