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just found this on the ESPN site. I just don't understand what goes through these kids heads. Are they so talked up that they truly think they are untouchable and able to do what ever they want without consequence? It will be interesting to see if any of them will serve suspensions. None were starters or saw significant playing time but looked to be part of a future rotation

D.J. Pettway among 4 Alabama Crimson Tide freshmen facing charges - ESPN
 

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just found this on the ESPN site. I just don't understand what goes through these kids heads. Are they so talked up that they truly think they are untouchable and able to do what ever they want without consequence? It will be interesting to see if any of them will serve suspensions. None were starters or saw significant playing time but looked to be part of a future rotation

D.J. Pettway among 4 Alabama Crimson Tide freshmen facing charges - ESPN
This is where you cue in responses from SEC fans from other schools:

"If they are not on depth chart and Saban needs the room, they get dismissed".

"If they are third on depth chart they get two game suspension".

"If they are second string they sit out first quarter of first rent a win game".

"If they are starters its a lot of wind sprints after practice".


When LSU has kids get arrested for pot there is always a certain contingent of LSU fans who will say that would never happen at Alabama, Saban would not let it.

The fact is most all SEC schools recruit the same type of kids. The better the kids is, the more willing you are to take a character risk and rationalize that you can be the difference in his life and help him turn it around.

I do think some coaches are more willing to take character risks than others and some are more likely to sweep this stuff under the rug.

For the most part the big schools like Florida, Georgia, LSU and Alabama all seem to have their fair share of these problems and all seem to handle it about the same way. Despite what they say, it does seem that the better kids tend to get cut more slack. Thats life in the real world.
 

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Trey W. said:
Are they so talked up that they truly think they are untouchable and able to do what ever they want without consequence?
The short answer is yes, they do. A lot of these kids have been handed everything once their 'amazing talent' started showing itself. It's a sad world where adults coddle and bend over backwards for kids who can run fast or shoot a ball. I've known some of them including a baseball pitcher who graduated in my class who could not SAY his ABCs, much less read and write. The really sad thing is he never reached the majors, so I'm sure he's ended up just another minimum wage earner (or worse) barely getting by in the world. Yeah, folks did him a real service coddling him alng for his talent. Another kid, football player, got a full ride scholarship to Tulane for sports until they discovered he couldn't read. He was kicked out of school. I don't know what happened to him, either.

Too bad they don't give the same sort of handouts (and you know I don't mean scholarships) to kids who are geniuses at math or science or in literature. You know, the ones who actually can make a huge difference for the better in the world with their brains.
 
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I'm sure for the most part we never hear about a lot of minor infractions that go on unless they become frequent and the player gets some type of suspension. Like with Mathieu and Wing, by the time any report was put out about a suspension or such the stories even said they had failed previous drug testing that no one had heard about. For minor infractions like grades, skipping class, etc I can see them keeping it quiet with some extra curricular disaplinary actions. But when it comes to drugs, fighting, and stuff like this where the kid intentionally does some thing this stupid and knows it's wrong then whether they play for LSU or not they should be gone, period.

I know college is a time for fun and experimenting but these kids are under the microscope more than your regular college student. Not only can these kids hurt their own futures, if things are bad enough it can also hurt the school if they try to cover things up. And by not punishing/or slapping on the wrist players like this or ones caught by drug tests what kind of message are you sending other players and new recruits?
 

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This is where you cue in responses from SEC fans from other schools:

"If they are not on depth chart and Saban needs the room, they get dismissed".

"If they are third on depth chart they get two game suspension".

"If they are second string they sit out first quarter of first rent a win game".

"If they are starters its a lot of wind sprints after practice".


When LSU has kids get arrested for pot there is always a certain contingent of LSU fans who will say that would never happen at Alabama, Saban would not let it.

The fact is most all SEC schools recruit the same type of kids. The better the kids is, the more willing you are to take a character risk and rationalize that you can be the difference in his life and help him turn it around.

I do think some coaches are more willing to take character risks than others and some are more likely to sweep this stuff under the rug.

For the most part the big schools like Florida, Georgia, LSU and Alabama all seem to have their fair share of these problems and all seem to handle it about the same way. Despite what they say, it does seem that the better kids tend to get cut more slack. Thats life in the real world.
Really? Ryan Perrilloux? Tyrann Mathieu? For all of Les' faults, he's pretty consistent with discipline. He gives second chances, but doesn't really sweep anything under the rug and follows his policies strictly. No matter who you are.
 

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Really? Ryan Perrilloux? Tyrann Mathieu? For all of Les' faults, he's pretty consistent with discipline. He gives second chances, but doesn't really sweep anything under the rug and follows his policies strictly. No matter who you are.
I do not disagree with this at all. My post was directed at that contingent of LSU fans who think Saban does everything right and Miles does everything wrong. Whenever some problem crops up with an LSU player they point to a lack of discipline in the LSU program. I think LSU and Alabama basically recruit the same type players and handle discipline the same way.

Perrilloux is actually a good example. I think had he not been a star player he would have been run from the team long before they finally did. Star players do tend to get cut more slack. That happens everywhere.

It depends a lot on the nature of the offense. Mathieu had multiple chances. He got run because the rules mandated it, the coach had no discretion after you fail a certain number of tests.

I thought Miles handled the JJ suspension correctly. Once it got reduced to a misdemeanor he was allowed back on team. JJ did not have a big history of problems at LSU at the time.

Saban has a tougher time with this deal. Robbery is a lot different from a bar fight. Robbery is typically a premeditated offense against a person done for financial gain and is a felony. I think that warrants dismissal from the team. Miles could not let JJ back on the team with felony charges pending.

Some might say the police and DA helped JJ get his charges reduced. The reverse is true. Had he not been an LSU football player this would have been another one of 100 barfights that happen at college bars every year. JJ got over-prosecuted. I have never in my life seen search warrants issue after a bar fight.

Back to the original point. This event shows Alabama has just the same type of discipline problems LSU does. They recruit the same type of athletes. For the most part the coaches handle it the same way.
 

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