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CNN affiliate KTRK reported. Deputies said the suspect pulled up next to the car and opened fire.


Gonzalez said the girl’s mother, LaPorsha Washington, 30, was wounded. The sheriff’s office said glass fragments injured a younger child. Two teens were unharmed.


The mother and daughter are black. The suspect, who authorities are describing as a white male in his 40s, fled the scene in a red truck.
I hope they find this disturbed individual. Maybe this was just a road rage incident, but the racial overtones are quite obvious.

I don't know what to say beyond that except it's bitterly disappointing that lives are so valueless to some people.
 

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I think we can all agree that the mom gets a free pass on this one. It was dark. She got shot. Her baby girl is dead. God bless and keep her.

Various news outlets chose to give this story lots of "play." The one I saw the most was CNN. This was not an arbitrary choice, an editorial-level decision made this one of the most newsworthy stories of the day on their network, nationally. I question that decision.

Once it was revealed that there wasn't a redneck in a red pick up truck hunting black people, CNN did report that Sean King had broken the case and they gave the story equal play. That is a good thing.

Sean King deserves recognition for his integrity and he got a well-deserved thank you from the police.

I would not compare this case to the Tawana Brawly case. She deliberately lied and mislead.

Instead, I'd compare it to the Atlanta child murders, where the media spent a good deal of time speculating that there was a white person out there hunting black children. Turned out it was a black guy, though some folks still choose not to acknowledge it.
Why was the media wrong to give the case the spot light? Why was CNN wrong?

I don't think they were wrong. The attention, including national attention, would be expected with any case like this.

Why is it that everybody is looking for somebody or some entity that did something wrong? I don't think anybody did anything wrong or questionable. Why is there even a blame game?

The only people that did anything wrong, are the killers. Everybody else did their job.
 

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I think we can all agree that the mom gets a free pass on this one. It was dark. She got shot. Her baby girl is dead. God bless and keep her.

Various news outlets chose to give this story lots of "play." The one I saw the most was CNN. This was not an arbitrary choice, an editorial-level decision made this one of the most newsworthy stories of the day on their network, nationally. I question that decision.

Once it was revealed that there wasn't a redneck in a red pick up truck hunting black people, CNN did report that Sean King had broken the case and they gave the story equal play. That is a good thing.

Sean King deserves recognition for his integrity and he got a well-deserved thank you from the police.

I would not compare this case to the Tawana Brawly case. She deliberately lied and mislead.

Instead, I'd compare it to the Atlanta child murders, where the media spent a good deal of time speculating that there was a white person out there hunting black children. Turned out it was a black guy, though some folks still choose not to acknowledge it.

It started as a local news report, and when you have a suspect at large, with no obvious motive for killing, the concern is that there is a public menace out there, indiscriminately killing people. It is the right call to push that story to various outlets.

if the initial account was correct, this could have saved a lot of lives.

Look, we don't have a lot of racially motivated killings out there. The vast majority are perpetrated by people the victim knows. You're more likely to be killed by your family than a stranger (I could be wrong about that, but it's stunning how many are domestic violence cases). So, when one shows up, or potentially shows up, it is news.

It's ironic and how sensitive some people get about this are often the same ones clamoring about the over sensitivity of people. If a black suspect randomly shot at white people in traffic, it would be major news. Just like the DC sniper and they had no idea who or why this person was shooting people. The suspected motives went all over the place. It's major news when things are dangerous and unknown.
 

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This is an example of how the spread of information at a lightening pace can be a problem. What if the public found the "suspect" in the sketch and took matters into their own hands?
Shaun King said the same thing - that there's a danger there and that the witness (who, at the time of the first releases of information) is probably somewhere fearing for his life.

It can be incredibly perilous.

Reddit's role in the Boston Bomber attack is one example that comes to mind. That was a totally tragic wreck for a number of reasons. And highlighted the dangerous irresponsibility you are talking about.

When the suspect was initially white, the discussion around race was about how it was a racist white dude who wanted to shoot up some black people (something that has obviously happened, and recently, and probably in a lot of people's minds) and that becomes the jumped-to conclusion. When it came out that the police were searching for someone black, I saw comments about how "mom was a drug dealer and this was a deal gone bad" and "mom was a gang banger who crossed the wrong person and she's trying to hide her past" and such, with references to black on black violence and gang-related crime. The race of the suspect played the same inflammatory role for people, but this time it was flipped. Same incident, a matter of hours and we see extremes employed.

Most murders aren't motivated by racial animus, but when something like this happens - one of the first things people reach for because of the "lightning pace" is a racial angle.

Mistaken identities or wrong information at that point can be dangerous to innocent people, risking even more innocent lives.
 

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I'd add, the suspects said when they heard it on the news, they knew the screwed up and admitted to the crime during a traffic stop. Did they hear it on the local news or CNN, or some other national news?

I mean, the suspects likely aren't the biggest news consumers out there. What would they be watching/reading?
 

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Why was the media wrong to give the case the spot light? Why was CNN wrong?

I don't think they were wrong. The attention, including national attention, would be expected with any case like this.

Why is it that everybody is looking for somebody or some entity that did something wrong? I don't think anybody did anything wrong or questionable. Why is there even a blame game?

The only people that did anything wrong, are the killers. Everybody else did their job.
Hi Coldseat,

I didn't say they were wrong. I said I question the decision. As a Journalism major, with experience as a reporter and bureau chief, I'd like to see their logic and see how it fits into standard practices.

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Hi Coldseat,

I didn't say they were wrong. I said I question the decision. As a Journalism major, with experience as a reporter and bureau chief, I'd like to see their logic and see how it fits into standard practices.

-dd
Wait, what? When were you a reporter?
 

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But....muh narrative :(

Maybe this is an opportunity for self-reflection for some people. Maybe we can openly wonder why the media pushed this story, and why it is currently the hottest thread on the EE. I mean there were 280 murders in Houston last year. How many did you hear about? How many were a popular topic of discussion on the EE? But oh man, white guy in a red pickup truck murders a little black girl in Texas. That's juicy, I gotta admit. I know that was some tasty bait for several people on the EE.

RIP to the little girl, who we never would have heard about if it wasn't reported that the murderer was a white man.
If it had been reported as a Muslim, we’d have heard about it.

The reason is that in either of those cases, the story would be more interesting to the general public. Stories more interesting to the general public improve ratings. It’s ok because most of it is probably true.

My point is that the media is biased, but not towards liberals, conservatives, white men or Muslims. It is biased towards sensationalism.

That’s partially our fault as a public, and partially the fault of our economic system. Capitalism does some things well, but encoraging media companies to provide accurate information is not one of them.
 
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My point is that the media is biased, but not towards liberals, conservatives, white men or Muslims. It is biased towards sensationalism.

That’s partially our fault as a public, and partially the fault of our economic system. Capitalism does some things well, but encoraging media companies to provide accurate information is not one of them.
i go back and forth on this
i mostly believe the media is us - -but it's also, obviously, a propaganda tool that corporation use
as Oye will scream from the canuck wilderness - this is why we need media literacy taught early and often
i would prefer for media news to be more like a good grocery store - -i'm not always going to get the fresh veggies, but i like having them there
but it seems most news now is like McDonald's - -not super great for us and probably more additives than content
 

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It's ironic and how sensitive some people get about this are often the same ones clamoring about the over sensitivity of people.
I don't think that people were being overly sensitive, anyone who is honest can acknowledge the narrative that was brewing, complete with a U.S. Congresswoman known for playing the race card jumping into the spotlight. You can't call people "silly" for simply seeing what is plainly in front of them. At least not if you want people to take you seriously.
 

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I don't think that people were being overly sensitive, anyone who is honest can acknowledge the narrative that was brewing, complete with a U.S. Congresswoman known for playing the race card jumping into the spotlight. You can't call people "silly" for simply seeing what is plainly in front of them. At least not if you want people to take you seriously.
Plenty of people take me seriously, I really don't worry much about your perception of my opinions. It (the See, it wasn't a white guy!!!) seemed like it was beyond just "acknowledging" something. Not every comment but some. Surviving Saint's early commentary is an easy example of the silliness.

Interestingly enough, the reason this topic got popular had nothing to do with the possibility of racism. It had to do with the dead penalty and a discussion on Islam. That was the reason, so when razor starts making it about the white V black, it shows a level of sensitivity to even considering the subject, when honestly, most people weren't even talking about it. At least not here.
 

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i go back and forth on this
i mostly believe the media is us - -but it's also, obviously, a propaganda tool that corporation use
as Oye will scream from the canuck wilderness - this is why we need media literacy taught early and often
i would prefer for media news to be more like a good grocery store - -i'm not always going to get the fresh veggies, but i like having them there
but it seems most news now is like McDonald's - -not super great for us and probably more additives than content
I think a lot of it also has to do with the the different tiers of "news" and the way we get exposed to news.

Pick any story, especially a hot button topic.

Reuters, AP, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, Fox News (depending on the topic), MSNBC, and NPR will cover it. Then, because they cover it, you'll see it on Brietbart, Salon, The Atlantic (eventually, and in detail), Newsweek, Huffington Post, and dozens upon dozens of other aggregate sites, then you'll see reactions to it on the really terrible left and right sites.

After all that, you see it on Facebook and/or Twitter, especially if you follow your local news social media accounts. If you follow the local Fox, NBC, CBS, and ABC news social media accounts, you'll get that same story, with different leading headlines, 2, 3, or 4 times on your FB scroll. If you dare click on the reactions, you'll exposed to all kinds of stupidity and short sighted reactions.

Then you may hear people talk about it or see it on SR.com or a car enthusiast website.

We have a much harder time unplugging.
 

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Pick any story, especially a hot button topic.
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for the most part yes, but i think the "any" story is a concern as well
even by the time we get to 'any' it's already been vetted and it's almost always a 'fit for consumption' decision vs an important
and we're going to get about 70% carbs, 15% starches, 10% protein, 5% fruit & veg
 

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Plenty of people take me seriously, I really don't worry much about your perception of my opinions. It (the See, it wasn't a white guy!!!) seemed like it was beyond just "acknowledging" something. Not every comment but some. Surviving Saint's early commentary is an easy example of the silliness.
I think you're being a little unfair of your characterization of the response. You make it sound as if people were giddy at the fact it wasn't a white guy. But regardless, I think it's fair that some feel a little validated with that fact. And please don't mistake me trying to call that a win. There truly are no winners here. I just want fair assessments made and the full weight of Justice to be brought down upon the guilty, no matter who they may be.
 

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I think you're being a little unfair of your characterization of the response. You make it sound as if people were giddy at the fact it wasn't a white guy. But regardless, I think it's fair that some feel a little validated with that fact. And please don't mistake me trying to call that a win. There truly are no winners here. I just want fair assessments made and the full weight of Justice to be brought down upon the guilty, no matter who they may be.
Validated how exactly?
 

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Validated how exactly?
Good question. I think a few here, myself included, were uncomfortable with the fact that the racial conclusion was so easy to come by. Not particularly here, but more on a national scale. I get why either you or I may come to that theory, but when it's perpetuated by the media and people in power then I think it can be very damaging. A boy who cried wolf affect so to speak for blacks as well as fueling skepticism for whites. Building that narrative before enough information is gleaned only helps to drive a wedge. I think that's the point many of us were trying to make about calling it a possible hate crime in the beginning and this turn of events kinda validates that opinion. Some just want to brush that off, but I think it's more important than credited here that facts be facts when it comes to the media in these cases and speculation left to you and I.
 

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