A Honest Look At Haslett/Brooks (‘00-‘04) (1 Viewer)

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Jim Haslett had great first year because of Ron Zook, the defensive coordinator. Jeff Blake was highly unheralded. After getting off to a slow start Blake had the team at 7-3 and then had a season ending injury against the Raiders. Aaron Brooks had a .500 record the year we won the first playoff game. Haslett had absolutely no discipline and the locker room went amuck. Ask Deuce about Albert Connell. Imagine if Sean Payton had been the Coach for Aaron Brooks.
 
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But Haslett refused to let him go. He's the main reason why we never pushed beyond 7-9 & 8-8.
That and our ex-NFL linebacker couldn't spot LB talent to save his life.
It's like he figured if the D-line was good enough, any random schmoe could play 'backer.
 

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Yeah, I'll defend Brooks to a degree (see my above reply) but Brooks did absolutely nothing after he left NOLA (he looked absolutely awful in his brief stint with the Raiders), so I think he was done.
Yup he put a tarnish on Art Shell as he came out of retirement to coach the raiders again
 

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I consider two eras of Saints football. The first was Meacom when the team was ran by a trust fund kid and the Benson era. And they are totally different. Like night and day.
Said this several times before on other posts. When it came to car racing Meacom was a beast. Won the Indy 500 with Graham Hill had other top notch drivers like Roger Penske. Imagine how it would have been had this translated to football.

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Yeah, man, look at those all playoff wins Hebert had with the Dome Patrol. He totally didn't piss away one of the best defenses in NFL history.
Yes Hebert choked in the playoffs but remember we were in the same division with one of the greatest dynasties in pro sports. Hebert rarely lost against AFC teams. Too bad we weren’t in the AFC or in a weaker division.
 

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Yes Hebert choked in the playoffs but remember we were in the same division with one of the greatest dynasties in pro sports. Hebert rarely lost against AFC teams. Too bad we weren’t in the AFC or in a weaker division.
I still remember that Buffalo game in N.O close to the end of the 92 season. I was high on that team. But that game made me realize Saints were far from being a SuperBowl contender.

Then came the Eagles playoff game in the dome
 
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Brooks was not awful. Haslett, maybe.
I said "at times" (in another post in this thread). Brooks was awful at times. Look so was Brett Favre. The problem with Brooks that the "good" wasn't a good as Favre's "good" and his "awful" was way worse than Favre's "awful."

He was the ultimate Jekyll and Hyde QB.
 

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When you consider the disaster of a franchise Haslett took over I don't think they we're that bad. He took over a 3-13 team and went 10-6 and won the first playoff game in Saints history. That might not seem like that big of a deal now but at the time it was like we had won the Super Bowl. Just making the playoffs used to be a big deal but to actually win a game, that was special.

After that the team was up and down but they were fun to watch. They weren't that different from those 7-9 teams we've had under SP. They could beat any team in the league one week and then lose to some off the wall team the next.

Haslett should've done better than 10-6, 7-9, 9-7, 8-8, 8-8, and 3-13. I'm sure he'd be the first to admit that. But even Sean Payton finished 7-9 or 8-8 six times with Drew Brees.
 
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Yes Hebert choked in the playoffs but remember we were in the same division with one of the greatest dynasties in pro sports. Hebert rarely lost against AFC teams. Too bad we weren’t in the AFC or in a weaker division.
He played like arse in the playoffs. Doesn't matter how you try and what-if it, he was terrible in the playoffs with an all-time defense backing him up.
 

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yup I appreciate that but it doesn’t matter how you try or what if it he was 3-3. Won one playoff game and couldn’t even get the team to the post season once with him as the quarterback for a full season
 
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yup I appreciate that but it doesn’t matter how you try or what if it he was 3-3. Won one playoff game and couldn’t even get the team to the post season once with him as the quarterback for a full season
Still accomplished more with a worse team than Hebert.
 

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Brooks did accomplish more if you are judging it by the one playoff game.

However, Brooks one playoff game. Hebert three playoff appearances. Brooks zero league championships. Hebert MVP and champion of USFL where he defeated Mora. I suppose you could discredit the USFL but you would then be discrediting Sam Mills, Vaughn Johnson

Hebert 12-4, 10-6, 11-5, records
Brooks 9-7 was his best

1987- whole team did not show up.
1991-Michael Haynes burned the Saints bigtime
1992- I agree Hebert choked
 

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I don’t know how you guys get so heated over history. I look at it a bit differently in the luxury of hindsight. What if either Haz or Brooks had gotten canned even one year earlier? Would Drew have happened? Sean almost certainly would not have. When it’s part of history, it’s part of where we are now - which is a place I like.
 

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