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This sums it up for me.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/e3qG5u1A_98" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
 

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I agree he is not acting presidential at all, but don't veterans have access to medical care through the VA? Please correct me if I am wrong because I am not in the military. But as I understand it, veterans of military conflict such as Iraq and Afghanistan have health care through the VA and would have no need for the ACA.
 

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I agree he is not acting presidential at all, but don't veterans have access to medical care through the VA? Please correct me if I am wrong because I am not in the military. But as I understand it, veterans of military conflict such as Iraq and Afghanistan have health care through the VA and would have no need for the ACA.
Yes, almost all veterans, with few exceptions (extremely high income is one) are eligible to use the VA, and if you are enrolled in the VA system it meets the ACA's requirement of being insured to avoid the fine for not be covered. But even if you have high income, if you have a medical condition that was caused because of your service then you can get into the VA system anyway. And vice versa, if you have no illnesses or injuries due to your service but your income is low then you are eligible for VA services. Basically the only way to NOT be covered by the VA is to be a Peacetime era veteran who has no service related conditions and a large monthly income. Incidentally, the last peacetime era was from May 8, 1975 - Aug 1, 1990. Even if you only served for 1 day of a wartime era you are considered a wartime era veteran.
 
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Yes, almost all veterans, with few exceptions (extremely high income is one) are eligible to use the VA, and if you are enrolled in the VA system it meets the ACA's requirement of being insured to avoid the fine for not be covered. But even if you have high income, if you have a medical condition that was caused because of your service then you can get into the VA system anyway. And vice versa, if you have no illnesses or injuries due to your service but your income is low then you are eligible for VA services. Basically the only way to NOT be covered by the VA is to be a Peacetime era veteran who has no service related conditions and a large monthly income. Incidentally, the last peacetime era was from May 8, 1975 - Aug 1, 1990. Even if you only served for 1 day of a wartime era you are considered a wartime era veteran.
It's not all that high.

2016 VA National and Priority Group 8 Relaxation Income Thresholds

Based on Income Year 2015
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Veteran with: VA National Income Threshold VA Priority Group 8
Relaxation Threshold VA Housebound Threshold VA Pension with Aid and Attendance Threshold VA Pension Threshold Medical Expense Deductible
0 dependents $31,978 or less $35,176 or less $15,725 $21,466 $12,868 or less $643
1 dependents $38,374 or less $42,211 or less $19,710 $25,448 $16,851 or less $843
2 dependents $40,572 or less $44,629 or less $21,908 $27,646 $19,049 or less $952
3 dependents $42,770 or less $47,047 or less $24,106 $29,844 $21,247 or less $1,062
4 dependents $44,968 or less $49,465 or less $26,304 $32,042 $23,445 or less $1,172
For each additional dependent add: $2,198 $2,198 $2,198 $2,198 $2,198 5% of the maximum allowable pension rate from the previous year
Child Earned Income Exclusion: $10,300
 

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I agree he is not acting presidential at all, but don't veterans have access to medical care through the VA? Please correct me if I am wrong because I am not in the military. But as I understand it, veterans of military conflict such as Iraq and Afghanistan have health care through the VA and would have no need for the ACA.
We do but that's not he point. We're not the only people in the world
 

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Yes, almost all veterans, with few exceptions (extremely high income is one) are eligible to use the VA, and if you are enrolled in the VA system it meets the ACA's requirement of being insured to avoid the fine for not be covered. But even if you have high income, if you have a medical condition that was caused because of your service then you can get into the VA system anyway. And vice versa, if you have no illnesses or injuries due to your service but your income is low then you are eligible for VA services. Basically the only way to NOT be covered by the VA is to be a Peacetime era veteran who has no service related conditions and a large monthly income. Incidentally, the last peacetime era was from May 8, 1975 - Aug 1, 1990. Even if you only served for 1 day of a wartime era you are considered a wartime era veteran.
Also, aren't the wait times for an appointment at the VA incredibly long?
 

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It's not all that high.

2016 VA National and Priority Group 8 Relaxation Income Thresholds

Based on Income Year 2015
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Veteran with: VA National Income Threshold VA Priority Group 8
Relaxation Threshold VA Housebound Threshold VA Pension with Aid and Attendance Threshold VA Pension Threshold Medical Expense Deductible
0 dependents $31,978 or less $35,176 or less $15,725 $21,466 $12,868 or less $643
1 dependents $38,374 or less $42,211 or less $19,710 $25,448 $16,851 or less $843
2 dependents $40,572 or less $44,629 or less $21,908 $27,646 $19,049 or less $952
3 dependents $42,770 or less $47,047 or less $24,106 $29,844 $21,247 or less $1,062
4 dependents $44,968 or less $49,465 or less $26,304 $32,042 $23,445 or less $1,172
For each additional dependent add: $2,198 $2,198 $2,198 $2,198 $2,198 5% of the maximum allowable pension rate from the previous year
Child Earned Income Exclusion: $10,300
The format that this is in is extremely hard to follow, but it seems like you posted the income thresholds that are needed to qualify for the non-service connected pension, which has nothing to do with qualifying for healthcare services. NSC Pension is a need-based monthly stipend that a war era veteran can get at age 65 (or sooner if they are disabled through Social Security)
 
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That was exactly the point of the video. They played the veteran card for a program that was not even intended for veterans.
The video did include veterans, but it did include everyone else in it's statement. So are you arguing that as long as veterans are provided care, it doesn't matter what happens to everyone else?
 

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The format that this is in is extremely hard to follow, but it seems like you posted the income thresholds that are needed to qualify for the non-service connected pension, which has nothing to do with qualifying for healthcare services. NSC Pension is a need-based monthly stipend that a war era veteran can get at age 65 (or sooner if they are disabled through Social Security)
You just moved the bar.
I'm a military retiree that has no service connected disabilities and is 51. I do not qualify for VA healthcare. Anyone that is 65 wouldn't need the ACA as they would be moved to Medicare.
 
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The format that this is in is extremely hard to follow, but it seems like you posted the income thresholds that are needed to qualify for the non-service connected pension, which has nothing to do with qualifying for healthcare services. NSC Pension is a need-based monthly stipend that a war era veteran can get at age 65 (or sooner if they are disabled through Social Security)
If you went to the website, you'd see I left off the page main title.

Annual Income Limits - Health Benefits

Besides that, as a vet I think it's appalling that we've created a society which doesn't take care of it's citizens. I fought for my country's people not it's soil and a few elite families.

If we're going to treat our citizens like dirt and expect them to just bootstrap through everything, then why would I bother to fight for them?
 
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That was exactly the point of the video. They played the veteran card for a program that was not even intended for veterans.
If you cannot even bother to read an entire web page and understand it's meanings, please just stop making up facts to support your feelings and let the adults talk.
 

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