Are you willing to get the Covid vaccine when offered? (1 Viewer)

Will you get the covid vaccine when offered?

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About half of the people I know, including nurses, seem very reluctant to get the vaccination. Surprisingly, this includes different political demographics. What better way to settle it than by coming to a Saints message board.

edit: Geez I somehow allowed people to pick more than one answer on a yes/no poll. Doh!
 

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No we have not had it, but testing has shown that antibodies from getting Covid only last for a couple of months. If everybody keeps passing on getting the shot, it's going to take way longer than that to get everyone one. I do understand their reasons, but I don't agree with their logic. My mother-in-law is trying to use the same logic and I'm actually surprised she made it through having Covid without being hospitalized as we were really close to sending an ambulance to go get her. That was 2.5 months ago. The only logic that makes sense to me is if you have the chance, get it. The sooner that happens, the sooner we can all move on.
I know that.... Having the actual virus ( viral load not withstanding ) allows your body to create antibodies.... A vaccine does the exact same thing by "tricking" your body into thinking it has the virus, and thus allowing your body to create the same antibodies (levels are again - debatable)...

It's my understanding that there is relatively no difference - as long as you have antibodies - you have some level of protection (how much protection is completely unknown, and varies from person to person)

There is no vaccine that protects from re-infection or some level of spread at 100%... Nor does having it already keep you from getting it again.

It simply lessens the impact, ability to spread, and severity because the body already has anitbodies to fight it (same a a natural infection that creates antibodies in the host)...

Covid is here to stay... It's not going away with vaccines... all we can do it control the spread and lessen the impacts over time until it's manageable.
 
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I know that.... Having the actual virus ( viral load not withstanding ) allows your body to create antibodies.... A vaccine does the exact same thing by "tricking" your body into thinking it has the virus, and thus allowing your body to creating the same antibodies...

It's my understanding that there is relatively no difference - as long as you have antibodies - you have some level of protection (how much protection is completely unknown, and varies from person to person)

There is no vaccine that protects from re-infection or some level of spread at 100%... Nor does having it already keep you from getting it again.

It simply lessens the impact, ability to spread, and severity because the body already has anitbodies to fight it (same a a natural infection that creates antibodies in the host)...

Covid is here to stay... It's not going away with vaccines... all we can do it control the spread and lessen the impacts over time until it's manageable.
Yes exactly. This is why it's important for everyone to get the shot when they have the opportunity and not delay it. Testing has shown that natural antibodies only last a few months where as antibodies from the vaccine last much longer. The faster people lessen the ability for the virus to spread, the faster we can lessen restrictions on those of us that are really hurting for work.
 

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I think all vaccine trial volunteers should get free Popeye's for life.
I agree. Though i'll say it's crazy they paid me to be a trial volunteer. I wasn't getting the vaccine until dead last, so i figured it was my only chance. happy to be lucky enough to get, though i guess i did run the risk of getting a vaccine that wasn't as strong as the other ones. i chose to do it once i saw the UK variant coming.
 

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Here's my real quandary... While we are sitting here debating who will and won't, or who would or should get a shot...

We supposedly have vaccines now that are 80% or better effective...

Yet we are still selectively, deliberately, and slowly rationing them out on some type of "moral basis" of "need"...

That time has come and gone...

It's time for less talk about trillions of $ in "aid" and "stimulus"..... and more action with Trillions of $ in mass vaccine production.... Trillions of $ in the mobilization of non-deployed active military units, state national guards, and reserve units with medical capabilities into 24x7 vaccination camps across the country (who have the knowledge, personnel, and resources to execute this) - Where every person with a willing arm and identification (to avoid duplicates, and ensure shot #2) gets a shot.... Like Now.

At the current rate of execution... by the time some get the shot... others will be at the tail end of peak antibody production.

It's almost like the people with the power and money to make this go away for the masses.... don't want it to go away. *zing*
 
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I did the novavax trial (which is still ongoing if anyone in NOLA is interested). Got my second shot on Saturday. Sunday was rough. Tired all day and a slight fever. I felt fine on Monday though. I'm thinking i did not get the placebo, which is a good thing.
They ended it early. Today is the last day. I got my first shot yesterday - they moved up our appointments to get us in.
 

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Here's my real quandary... While we are sitting here debating who will and won't, or who would or should get a shot...

We supposedly have vaccines now that are 80% or better effective...

Yet we are still selectively, deliberately, and slowly rationing them out on some type of "moral basis" of "need"...

That time has come and gone...

It's time for less talk about trillions of $ in "aid" and "stimulus"..... and more action with Trillions of $ in mass vaccine production.... Trillions of $ in the mobilization of non-deployed active military units, state national guards, and reserve units with medical capabilities into 24x7 vaccination camps across the country (who have the knowledge, personnel, and resources to execute this) - Where every person with a willing arm and identification (to avoid duplicates, and ensure shot #2) gets a shot.... Like Now.

At the current rate of execution... by the time some get the shot... others will be at the tail end of peak antibody production.

It's almost like the people with the power and money to make this go away for the masses.... don't want it to go away. *zing*
My understanding that right now the limitation is the supply.
 

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I bet $1.9 Trilion from Congress would fix that understanding quick...
Not really, money can only fix so much. And besides, by the time that passes, production and distribution will be that much closer to demand. Just fixing the vaccine doesn't make up for the lost income that millions have dealt with, and doesn't help pay the bills for people who are struggling to make ends meet. We're still hardly near full employment and a lot of people need bit of an assist to get them to the finish line in terms of recovering their normal income.

It's really not an either/or thing. Both sides of the covid situation need to be addressed.
 

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They ended it early. Today is the last day. I got my first shot yesterday - they moved up our appointments to get us in.
Nice. I was tired the next day after my first shot, but otherwise fine. However, i had also gone out the night before, so it could've been from that. Hears to hoping you didn't get the placebo! Also, good sign that they ended it early, maybe it will be coming out even sooner.
 

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Nice. I was tired the next day after my first shot, but otherwise fine. However, i had also gone out the night before, so it could've been from that. Hears to hoping you didn't get the placebo! Also, good sign that they ended it early, maybe it will be coming out even sooner.
Apparently the UK phase 3 already ended, quite successfully. I didn't really have any effects from the first shot, but that's not terribly odd for me. Hopefully since it's the end, they unblind quickly and I can get the real shot regardless.
 

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Apparently the UK phase 3 already ended, quite successfully. I didn't really have any effects from the first shot, but that's not terribly odd for me. Hopefully since it's the end, they unblind quickly and I can get the real shot regardless.
Apparently you could be getting a second shot even prior to the unblinding per the NYT:

The company has also been granted approval from the F.D.A. to change the trial to a so-called crossover design, in which participants will receive a second round of shots if the vaccine is shown to be safe and effective. Under the plan, anyone in a placebo group would then get the vaccine in the second round, and those who received a vaccine would get a placebo. That will help reassure potential volunteers that they will eventually receive the vaccine even if they were in the placebo group.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/03/health/vaccine-novavax.html
 

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Priority 1 should be - End the Pandemic at any and all costs, as quickly as possible. Get back to normal. Open business. Re-employ people.... We are past the point of enacting any real assistance with piece meal pork filled table scrapped government checks and programs... we have to address the big picture first.

Anyone that doesn't think $2 trillion dollars in the hands (pockets) of For-Profit Vaccine manufactures to provide record supply, and Trained military professionals to execute mass deployment... wouldn't get this done in less than 6 months... is fooling themselves...
 

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Priority 1 should be - End the Pandemic at any and all costs, as quickly as possible. Get back to normal. Open business. Re-employ people.... We are past the point of enacting ant real help with piece meal pork filled table scrapped government checks and programs... we have to address the big picture first.

Anyone that doesn't think $2 trillion dollars in the hands of For-Profit Vaccine manufactures to provide record supply, and Trained military professionals to execute mass deployment... wouldn't get this done in less than 6 months... is fooling themselves...
You do realize they're already going to get this done in less than 6 months right?
 

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