As I said before , We need a Cut Throat Owner ! (1 Viewer)

[BikesBurgersBeer]

Like David Tepper?

He's been pretty cut throat and the Panthers have been terrible for years.

Cut throat does not equal good.

 

[jessy]

She’s a hands off owner, which is very smart on her part since she probably didn't grow up living and breathing football.

The last thing an NFL team needs is a hands on owner who has no idea what they are doing, constantly making horrible decisions.

This is all on Loomis.

But, if I was the owner, I would make a few cut-throat decisions today that many fans would probably disagree with….

1. Fire DA, Pete, and Marone today.

2. Go to the stars and leaders and offer them IR: Cam, Davis, Olave, AK, Ram…anyone we’ll need next year that doesn’t need meaningless reps.

3. Start Penning the rest of the year to see if he can find it.

These decisions should mean we lose the rest of our games. It’s the tanking by lack of coaching and talent strategy. Hopefully the other 4-5 win teams win a few and we get a top 5 pick.

4. Hire the best offensive head coach we can get.

5. Next season move Carr to 2nd string right out the gate, day one of OTAs. Hopefully his pride will get the better of him and he’ll ask to be released from his contract so he can go to another team.

 

[sfidc3]

She’s a hands off owner, which is very smart on her part since she probably didn't grow up living and breathing football.

The last thing an NFL team needs is a hands on owner who has no idea what they are doing, constantly making horrible decisions.

Yup, I agree with this.....the 2nd paragraph describes Danny Snyder perfectly....

But hands off doesn't mean they don't make changes, when it is obvious it is needed.....

Tom Benson is revered by most here, understandable. But the Benson ownership (before CSP) had a tendency to keep coaches around too long when it was obvious it was time to go....

My hope is that Gayle doesn't make the same mistake, my fear is she will....and if Loomis supports giving Allen another year he should be shown the door as well....

 

[Judge_Smails]

Dave... I'm not so sure. It just appears to me that Gayle may not have authority over Lauscha when it comes to the Saints and Pels teams day-to-day operations. As I see it, there is simply not enough clarity in the Will covering such.

Here is what is going on in my head and making me question Gayle having authority over day-to-day operations of the teams.

As set out in the excerpts of Benson's Probate documents pasted below, why name Lauscha as co-executor with provisions and exceptions if you are putting Gayle in complete ownership and control of operations of the teams? Why is the Will specific as to Gayle being "income beneficiary"?

If I were Tom Benson, and what I wanted was for Gayle to be in charge and control of everything, I would simply name Gayle as Executor, sole heir and beneficiary, and then it wouldn't be necessary to add the provisions or stipulate anything otherwise covered in Article 1, would it? Seems to me that this Will may have been constructed in a manner intended to protect the current front office hierarchy from interference by Gayle.

I think that "sole voting power" means sole power to vote. I don't think that it extends to giving the person sole power to manage. I am betting dollars to donuts that there are in-house documents not privy to the public specifying who has authority over what.

Which is why in my mind, it is quite possible that what @REBELMATT stated about Gayle Benson being little more than a figurehead has some merit. So when people say "Why doesn't Gayle just fire someone, maybe it is because she does not have the authority to do so.

Again, perhaps I am missing something, which is why I was hoping one of our member attorneys might enlighten us.

Interesting tipdbits from Bensons Will...

ARTICLE I - LEGACY OF ESTATE
1.02 If the Tom Benson July 2015 Revocable Trust for any reason, not in existence as of the date of my death, I leave estate to the Trustees of the Gayle Benson Marital Trust. which shall be governed by the following provisions:

"The trust...
1) shall have my spouse as income beneficiary for her life...
4) shall have as co-trustees my spouse and Dennis Lauscha. except that Gayle Benson will have the sole right to exercise all voting power over Benson Football. L.L.C and Benson Basketball. L.L.C
5) Dennis Lauscha shall have the power to appoint successor trustees; 6) the trustee shall distribute all of the income each year to my spouse. at least quarter!y, and shall distribute any income in the year of my spouses death to her estate...
7) the trustee shall invade and distribute principal of the trust to or for the benefit of my spouse for her health education, maintenance or support to enable her to maintain her accustomed standard of living...

ARTICLE Ill - SUCCESSION REPRESENTATIVE
3.01
1 appoint Dennis Lauscha as executor of my succession with full seizin and without bond. If Dennis Lauscha is for any reason unable or unwilling to serve or to continue to serve. I appoint Gayle Benson as successor executrix with full seizin and without bond. If Gayle Benson is for any reason unwilling or unable to serve or to continue to serve as executrix, I name and appoint Mickey Loomis and Greg Bensel to serve as successor co-executors, with full seizin and without bond. If either of Mickey Loomis or Greg Bense! is or becomes unwilling or unable to serve or to continue to serve as co-executor, I name and appoint as sole successor executor the one of them who is willing and able to serve or to continue to serve, with full seizin and without bond. In the event that Mickey and Greg cannot agree on any matter, Mickey's decision will control. l specifically grant my then surviving executor the power to appoint successor executors of this Last Will and
Testament after my death, with full seizin and without bond.

3.02. I vest in my Succession Representative the broadest authority possible under the laws of the State of Louisiana, including the authority under Louisiana Civil Code articles 1302, 1572 and 1725, to allocate or assign specific assets to an heir or legatee in satisfaction of legacies expressed in terms of quantum or value.

Maybe Tom wanted Lauscha in his role to possibly prevent Gayle from hiring or being convinced to hire her own person (instead of him) to make the day to day executive decisions?

If Gayle is the “owner,” but is contractually bound via the terms of the trust to keep Lauscha in his role, then doesn’t that sort of indicate she does not have the full scope of power that a sole owner not bound by the terms of a trust would have?

 

[DaveXA]

Maybe Tom wanted Lauscha in his role to possibly prevent Gayle from hiring or being convinced to hire her own person (instead of him) to make the day to day executive decisions?

If Gayle is the “owner,” but is contractually bound via the terms of the trust to keep Lauscha in his role, then doesn’t that sort of indicate she does not have the full scope of power that a sole owner not bound by the terms of a trust would have?

The thing is, there's no specific language that handcuffs Gayle in that way.

That said, there are stipulations in his will that serves to outline his wishes. He didn't want the team to be moved, he didn't want his kids to inherit a dime, multiple times. Lol. Other things as well.

 

[EGLSShin]

Both franchises are currently mid, the Pels can't escape the underachieving aspect either. When it comes to the Saints, I just think they have no idea how to proceed because the Alpha, aka, Sean Payton isn't there anymore. You can't tell me its a copycat league then go against league trends when you hire DA as head coach. Defensive minded head coaches aint how the league is going and it hasn't gone that way for years. A successful defensive coach is an anomaly in today's NFL unless you have Tom Brady.

 

[Judge_Smails]

The thing is, there's no specific language that handcuffs Gayle in that way.

That said, there are stipulations in his will that serves to outline his wishes. He didn't want the team to be moved, he didn't want his kids to inherit a dime, multiple times. Lol. Other things as well.

Can Gayle remove Lauscha? If not there is a limit to her control.

 

[DaveXA]

Can Gayle remove Lauscha? If not there is a limit to her control.

I didn't say there were no limits. Gayle and and Lauscha were both named Co-executors. The only difference between them is that Gayle has voting rights. There's nothing stating she can't do a specific thing outside relocating the teams and his kids inheriting anything.

Further, there was no language stating whether she could remove him or not.

Now he does have authority as team president to remove Loomis.

 

[NS_Saint]

Both franchises are currently mid, the Pels can't escape the underachieving aspect either. When it comes to the Saints, I just think they have no idea how to proceed because the Alpha, aka, Sean Payton isn't there anymore. You can't tell me its a copycat league then go against league trends when you hire DA as head coach. Defensive minded head coaches aint how the league is going and it hasn't gone that way for years. A successful defensive coach is an anomaly in today's NFL unless you have Tom Brady.

Robert Saleh
Mike Tomlin
Bill Belichick
Pete Carroll
Sean McDermott
DeMeco Ryans
John Harbaugh (special teams)

The focus should be getting the right guy who is most capable of being a head coach. Being a head coach is more about roster management, building culture, game day preparation, and less about being an offensive or defensive savant.

Dennis Allen is a hell of D coordinator, but he is clearly out of his element when he has to manage more than just his side off the ball. Norv Turner was brilliant offensive mind for many years and built some monster offenses as a coordinator, but as a head coach, most of his teams underachieved.

As for the succession documents and Ms. Benson's role, it looks there's nothing in there preventing her from making decisions. The appointment of coexecutors and naming of other successors is more than likely is probably to prevent any ambiguity, leaving an opening for one of Tom's kids or grandchildren to try and sue for control down the road.

 

[No2DC]

Robert Saleh
Mike Tomlin
Bill Belichick
Pete Carroll
Sean McDermott
DeMeco Ryans
John Harbaugh (special teams)

The focus should be getting the right guy who is most capable of being a head coach. Being a head coach is more about roster management, building culture, game day preparation, and less about being an offensive or defensive savant.

Dennis Allen is a hell of D coordinator, but he is clearly out of his element when he has to manage more than just his side off the ball. Norv Turner was brilliant offensive mind for many years and built some monster offenses as a coordinator, but as a head coach, most of his teams underachieved.

As for the succession documents and Ms. Benson's role, it looks there's nothing in there preventing her from making decisions. The appointment of coexecutors and naming of other successors is more than likely is probably to prevent any ambiguity, leaving an opening for one of Tom's kids or grandchildren to try and sue for control down the road.

This! It's about the right person with a great staff. Although, I understand a preference for an offensive coach to develop a QB.

 

[Saint KayBee]

Both franchises are currently mid, the Pels can't escape the underachieving aspect either. When it comes to the Saints, I just think they have no idea how to proceed because the Alpha, aka, Sean Payton isn't there anymore. You can't tell me its a copycat league then go against league trends when you hire DA as head coach. Defensive minded head coaches aint how the league is going and it hasn't gone that way for years. A successful defensive coach is an anomaly in today's NFL unless you have Tom Brady.

And the offensive coach who had what, 16 years’ continuity with the franchise… never mind