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http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/news/local/Firefighters-watch-as-home-burns-to-the-ground-104052668.html

Firefighters watch as home burns to the ground
OBION*COUNTY, Tenn. - Imagine your home catches fire but the local fire department won't respond, then watches it burn. That's exactly what happened to a local family tonight.

A local neighborhood is furious after firefighters watched as an Obion County, Tennessee, home burned to the ground.

The homeowner, Gene Cranick, said he offered to pay whatever it would take for firefighters to put out the flames, but was told it was too late.* They wouldn't do anything to stop his house from burning.

Each year, Obion County residents must pay $75 if they want fire protection from the city of South Fulton.* But the Cranicks did not pay.

The mayor said if homeowners don't pay, they're out of luck.
 

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He had the right to pay or not pay. He chose the wrong path.
If someone chooses not carry flood insurance on their house especially after Katrina and their house floods, too bad. I don't think the government should bail them out.
 

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He had the right to pay or not pay. He chose the wrong path.
If someone chooses not carry flood insurance on their house especially after Katrina and their house floods, too bad. I don't think the government should bail them out.
I damn sure don't think he should get a bail-out, but I also know insurance for his whole town is going to sky-rocket. There should be no option for fire coverage because it's a hazard to the community. Fees should ALWAYS be incorporated into property taxes and if he "Chooses" not to pay then the county can choose to take his property.

I also think it's criminal for the FD to watch it burn. They should have charged him $5k on the spot.
 

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That' first time I've heard of the fire department being a paid only service. As stupid as it sounds, it's a lot more stupid not to pay the $75.
 

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I think the point he was making though (and why it's here), fire service is usually a government expense thing that is usually paid by tax dollars, mailny because the government has duty to protect life and property. When they start charging for it in this way, they are neglecting their duty. The better alternative would just to make it a tax. Point OP was making was that it wasn't mad a tax, because it was socialism (obviously sarcasm :hihi:)

Imagine if this were the police:
Police Chief: So boys, we got ourselves a murder!
Defective 1: Yea, and it doesn't look good...
Chief: What you got so far Detective?
Detective: A man's family were murdered around 2:00 am this morning.
Detective: Obviously, the man survived and so did his family pet, but both are severely wounded. His neighbor made the call to us.
Chief: I see. Did he pay the cop fee?
Detective: No...
Chief:...
Chief:Oh well, let the ******* die. No fee, no cop work. This be's a business ya know!"
 

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That just sounds wrong -- is government going to go the route of airlines where everything is an added surcharge -- 2 things come to mind -- the first is why isnt the fire department part of property taxes but more importnantly -- the guys wouldnt pay 75 bucks -- both seem fairly stupid
 

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In Morehouse Parish, there were Fire Protection Districts. We were billed $50 per year if I recall correctly. The ironic thing was that we were in the Fire Protection District where the fire station was about 8 miles from our house. We were less than a mile from a city of Bastrop fire station (we were 100 yards outside the city limits) which would actually respond if we had to make a call.

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Services exist for the general welfare and safety of the society.

Sure you could get this house burned down for not submitting to the private sector shakedown monopoly, but how does it affect the other home owners? Does it benefit the group that the house on their block sits in cinders (depreciates value of all other houses)? Does it benefit the community that a working home owner is now homeless?

Of all the things money is used for in government, you would think basic services would remain a priority for the general welfare OF THE PEOPLE. Otherwise what you end up with is the state of a third world country.

The 'invisible hand' of free market is a clenched fist with an extended middle finger
 

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He had the right to pay or not pay. He chose the wrong path.
If someone chooses not carry flood insurance on their house especially after Katrina and their house floods, too bad. I don't think the government should bail them out.
we should do the same thing for police protection too. Then poor people can be assaulted before their house gets burned down.
 

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What if there were people inside? This is just a bad policy. What if the house fire sparks a wild fire that burns thousands of acres.

There's no justification.
 

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we should do the same thing for police protection too. Then poor people can be assaulted before their house gets burned down.
Exactly! We should privatize the military too. I see no reason that 50% of my tax dollars should go to the military. As a very lower middle class person, I see little personal gain from paying for the world's greatest fighting force.

// end sarcasm, of course :)
 

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we should do the same thing for police protection too. Then poor people can be assaulted before their house gets burned down.
On a slightly more serious note, I worked in municipal government for five years. A lot of the wealthy people really did want to do away with public fire and police and just hire protection for their neighborhoods only. They really hated the idea that the police, who they felt they paid for almost entirely due to the fact that the paid more, patrolled the poorer sections of town as much as their areas. The idea that clamping down on criminal activities in those areas made it far less likely that people would be committing robbery and associated violent crimes (home invasions) in their neighborhoods was beyond their level of comprehension.

Money/intelligence do not necessarily go hand in hand.
 

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we should do the same thing for police protection too. Then poor people can be assaulted before their house gets burned down.
I never said it was a good law or that I supported it. I think it should be a tax assessed on everyone, If you don't pay it they seize your house and put it for tax sales.
With that said, for what ever reason they passed the stupid law that they passed, I'm not gonna defend his stupidity for not paying the $75 he was required to pay.
 

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Taxes = socialism.
Free enterprise = freedom.


/tea bagging bumper sticker propaganda
 

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I also think it's criminal for the FD to watch it burn. They should have charged him $5k on the spot.
I agree.

I don't know how it went down, but of the firemen were at the house, and could have prevented significant damage, they and/or the city should be held liable.

The firemen should have put out the fire and sent him the bill.

I guess they don't have volunteer firemen up there. Equipment is still expensive, but I bet there is lots of waste they could eliminate and shift monies to emergency services.
 

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