Baseball HOF steroids McCarthyism? Bagwell Testcase (1 Viewer)

[SoonerJim]

Put him in the HOF? He's the first high profile retiree of the steroids era, and his career is clouded by teammates and the usual rumors.

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2...s-ushered-in-the-age-of-steroids-mccarthyism/

 

[geauxboy]

I thought McGwire was already eligible. Anyway, I'm not 100% against it, but I am still reluctant to let them in. Bags wasn't proven to have taken roids right? Until then, you have to think he didn't. In.

 

[SaintArchieManning]

I've never heard any talk of Baggie taking steroids.

Until I hear otherwise, he belongs in the Hall of Fame.

 

[BigHossTheBoss]

He's not even mentioned with the 90+ players in the Mitchell Report, he should be in.

 

[Redfish]

Bagwell deserves it.

 

[Saintman2884]

What about Larry Walker? He had a tremendous career with Expos, Rockies, Cards, playing in a hitter-friendly Coors Field shouldn't be factored against them or hitting 90's parity(Moises Alou, Vlad Guerrero, Sammy Sosa) . I don't think he gets in this time, MLB HOF voters have selective standards and known to lack objectivity on borderline inductees, scouts(absence of Buck O'Neil still strikes me as injustice. I've recognized Ron Santo will never be inducted despite many Cubs fans(me included) still ****** about lack of recognition.

 

[Saintman2884]

Red, so does Greg Biggio when his allotted time comes up.

 

[JimEverett]

What about Larry Walker? He had a tremendous career with Expos, Rockies, Cards, playing in a hitter-friendly Coors Field shouldn't be factored against them or hitting 90's parity(Moises Alou, Vlad Guerrero, Sammy Sosa) . I don't think he gets in this time, MLB HOF voters have selective standards and known to lack objectivity on borderline inductees, scouts(absence of Buck O'Neil still strikes me as injustice. I've recognized Ron Santo will never be inducted despite many Cubs fans(me included) still ****** about lack of recognition.

Cubs already have at least one guy in there that doesn;t desrve it (the Hawk) - lets not make a second

 

[Tony The Fish]

Let the 90's players in that have HOF numbers. I'm sure that some 70's and 80's HOFers used "speed", cocaine and other drugs to help keep that competitive edge.

 

[MVP's A Brees]

Bagwell NEVER used steroids, He absolutely deserves the HOF. His carreer was cut short by shoulder injurys, but imo and many others also, Bags is a top 2 or 3 best 1st baseman to ever play in the bigs. He could crank em to!!!

 

[Vega$$aint]

bagwell was always my favorite player and I never had any suspicions of him juicing.

Also, it's craig biggio, not greg.

eric

 

[Waymer]

Also, it's craig biggio, not greg.

eric

I think you are referring to a different athlete than 2884.

http://www.myspace.com/391702818

 

[Crzycjunx76]

What bothers me is the sluggers are going to be singled out because they were big, but steroids can do much more than make you big. You can actually lean out with the right roids, or you could improve your quickness and arm strength in the field, or you could look like a couch potato and just stay healthy longer because of their benifits. The lumbering DH, the soft tossing relief pitcher, the contact hitting gold glove defender, etc... all equally suspect.

I love the Astros, but if you doubt Bagwell then you have to doubt Biggio as well... if you doubt Mark McGwire(though he admitted) then you have to consider that Ozzie Smith could be just as dirty... not one single player in the HISTORY of baseball all the way back to the mid 50's when steroids became available. IN other words Roger Maris, Hank Aaron, Greg Maddux.... well you get the picture. EVERYONE! So in other words if you are going to keep the sluggers out then everyone from the mid fifties till the testing policy was added needs to be kept out.