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Our o-line is playing great, but it's like I keep trying to tell people here. Teams are selling out to pressure Brees because they know he cannot make them pay for it over the top anymore. Also he doesn't throw on the move anymore, so everyone knows if you can force him off his spot it's all the harder for him to get a pass off.

If you were scheming a defense against the Saints, be honest, what would scare you away from blitzing Brees right now knowing you can always keep the play in front of your backfield?
I have to disagree about our O line play so far. I think they would be the first to tell you that they haven't played "great" this year. I think they'll hit their stride in the second quarter of the season.

As for scheming against the Saints I agree that there isn't much to fear as far as blitzing goes. Usually teams were hesitant to blitz because Drew would just throw it to the vacated space over the middle. For whatever reason Drew has been hesitant to throw over the middle this season. He's having issues pulling trigger and that's something we've never seen.

I understand the points you're making and I agree with some of what you're saying. But you want to see Drew benched. I don't think we're anywhere close to such a desperate move.
 

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I have to disagree about our O line play so far. I think they would be the first to tell you that they haven't played "great" this year. I think they'll hit their stride in the second quarter of the season.

As for scheming against the Saints I agree that there isn't much to fear as far as blitzing goes. Usually teams were hesitant to blitz because Drew would just throw it to the vacated space over the middle. For whatever reason Drew has been hesitant to throw over the middle this season. He's having issues pulling trigger and that's something we've never seen.

I understand the points you're making and I agree with some of what you're saying. But you want to see Drew benched. I don't think we're anywhere close to such a desperate move.
First off thank you for at least saying I'm not crazy.

Also I don't want to see Brees benched. I think we can do a few wrinkles where we can still be explosive or at least unpredictable with Brees at QB. How awesome would a Taysom to Brees "Philly Special" 'for a TD be huh!?? (okay that last part is a joke).
 

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395 receiving yards through five games (of an overall total of 1170), almost all of which have come from passes to Kamara at or within three to five yards of the LOS.
Every qb gets a ton of yards after the catch, you can't penalize Brees for utilizing arguably his best playmaker.
lets look at another top qb
Patrick Mahomes 1474 yards 63.7% completion percentage
these are the Chiefs receiving yards after the catch
Travis Kelce 197 yards
CLYDE
EDWARDS-HELAIRE 153 yards
MECOLE
HARDMAN 109 yards
Tyreek Hill 107 yards
Sammy Watkins 80 yards
Darell Williams 47 yards
Demarcus Robinson 35 yards
Byron Pringle 12 yards
Anthony Sherman 8 yards
748 of his 1474 yards are after the catch, 50.74%
His top 2 yac leaders are a tight end and a back, traditionally short passes. I just watched his last 2 games, he had a whopping 2 passes over 25 yards, his other big plays were yac. Most of his passes were 15 yards or less, a few around 20.

Brees
Kamara 347 yards
Deonte Harris 55 yards
Latavius Murray 52 yards
Trequan Smith 51 yards
Emmanuel Sanders 48
Jared Cook 27
Ty Montgomery 26
Josh Hill 25
Taysom Hill 20
Marquez Callaway 16
Adam Trautman 3
Michael Thomas 2
Michael Burton 1
673 of his 1331 yards are after the catch 50.56%
His last 2 games he had quite a few passes around 20 yards, and 3 over 25. 2 against the Lions, one which was 29 yards to Kamara, and only a few of those yards came after the catch. I didn't count Kamara's juggling catch last week, because 1. it was around 22 yards, and 2. apparently those don't count. Even though Winston succeeded on a lot of these types of throws in Tampa, throwing it up there in tight coverage hoping his playmaker would come down with it.

For the people who brought up Bridgewater, 793 of his 1460 yards are after the catch, 54.3%

And no im not saying he has the same arm strength as Mahomes so don't try to twist what I'm saying. I'm simply saying he has what it takes to get it done. While Mahomes can let it rip for 50 to 60 yards, he's done that twice this entire season. Mahomes narrowly won against the Chargers in OT (coming back from a 17-6 deficit), and he lost to the Raiders.

Outside of the Raiders game his defense was giving up 17.5 ppg. Our's is steadily giving up 30. I wonder if any Chiefs fans are saying bench Mahomes because of slow starts (13 to 10 in the 4th qtr of the Pats game) and "only scoring 32 points against the Raiders". The point is even an elite qb still in his prime has his offense stall out from time to time. If you expect to win, the defense has to show up. Drew is not the problem.
 
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I'll repeat:

1. Defense yielding nearly 31 ppg
2. Micheal Thomas 17 receiving yards on the season
3. Offensive line wholly underwhelming

Through 5 games, what's our record 1-4, 0-5?
 

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Every qb gets a ton of yards after the catch, you can't penalize Brees for utilizing arguably his best playmaker.
lets look at another top qb
Patrick Mahomes 1474 yards 63.7% completion percentage
these are the Chiefs receiving yards after the catch
Travis Kelce 197 yards
CLYDE
EDWARDS-HELAIRE 153 yards
MECOLE
HARDMAN 109 yards
Tyreek Hill 107 yards
Sammy Watkins 80 yards
Darell Williams 47 yards
Demarcus Robinson 35 yards
Byron Pringle 12 yards
Anthony Sherman 8 yards
748 of his 1474 yards are after the catch, 50.74%
His top 2 yac leaders are a tight end and a back, traditionally short passes. I just watched his last 2 games, he had a whopping 2 passes over 25 yards, his other big plays were yac. Most of his passes were 15 yards or less, a few around 20.

Brees
Kamara 347 yards
Deonte Harris 55 yards
Latavius Murray 52 yards
Trequan Smith 51 yards
Emmanuel Sanders 48
Jared Cook 27
Ty Montgomery 26
Josh Hill 25
Taysom Hill 20
Marquez Callaway 16
Adam Trautman 3
Michael Thomas 2
Michael Burton 1
673 of his 1331 yards are after the catch 50.56%
His last 2 games he had quite a few passes around 20 yards, and 3 over 25. 2 against the Lions, one which was 29 yards to Kamara, and only a few of those yards came after the catch. I didn't count Kamara's juggling catch last week, because 1. it was around 22 yards, and 2. apparently those don't count. Even though Winston succeeded on a lot of these types of throws in Tampa, throwing it up there in tight coverage hoping his playmaker would come down with it.

For the people who brought up Bridgewater, 793 of his 1460 yards are after the catch, 54.3%

And no im not saying he has the same arm strength as Mahomes so don't try to twist what I'm saying. I'm simply saying he has what it takes to get it done. While Mahomes can let it rip for 50 to 60 yards, he's done that twice this entire season. Mahomes narrowly won against the Chargers in OT (coming back from a 17-6 deficit), and he lost to the Raiders.

Outside of the Raiders game his defense was giving up 17.5 ppg. Our's is steadily giving up 30. I wonder if any Chiefs fans are saying bench Mahomes because of slow starts (13 to 10 in the 4th qtr of the Pats game) and "only scoring 32 points against the Raiders". The point is even an elite qb still in his prime has his offense stall out from time to time. If you expect to win, the defense has to show up. Drew is not the problem.
Bravo, post of the year!

And guess what? Mahomes lost the only game in which his defense fell apart. Imagine that?

I wonder if NaiveFan or MV2 were Chiefs fans would have pointed to that fact that Mahomes generated 0 points for much of the second half of that Raiders game and that's the reason they lost? I'm assuming that's how the narrative would go if they are consistent.
 

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