Bush calls for end of Isreali 'occupation' of Arab lands (1 Viewer)

[Saint by the Bay]

Listening to the radio on the ride home he apparently also said Palestinians deserve reparations. I didn't here him say it but that's what they were saying he said.

AM radio was blowing up. Bush just became conservative enemy #1.

 

[blackadder]

Listening to the radio on the ride home he apparently also said Palestinians deserve reparations. I didn't here him say it but that's what they were saying he said.

AM radio was blowing up. Bush just became conservative enemy #1.

Well, many of them do. Israel itself sets the precedent: Jews are still chasing Germans for reparations over 60 years later.

700,000 Palestinians were driven from their homes in 1948 and never allowed back. Land and structures were confiscated and turned over to Jewish immigrants, or bulldozed to make way for Jewish settlements.

If that idea ever flies, guess who will pick up the tab?

I wonder who got into Bush's ear on this? Is this Condi Rice's doing?

 

[champ76]

BA, make sure you go to that "Is Bush the worst president ever?" thread and vote no. It's a shame it almost always takes seven years of a presidency before the straight talk starts. BTW, that reparations idea probably should flow both ways.

 

[blackadder]

BA, make sure you go to that "Is Bush the worst president ever?" thread and vote no. It's a shame it almost always takes seven years of a presidency before the straight talk starts. BTW, that reparations idea probably should flow both ways.

If he were able to get something done, that would have to balance out some of his blunders.

But I don't hold out much hope for this ending any differently then his father's attempt to address this cancer in the region:

West Bank's Jewish 'Outposts' Dig In
Many Answer Bush's Demand For End to Illegal Settlements By Starting New Construction

By Jonathan Finer
Washington Post Foreign Service
Sunday, January 13, 2008; A18

SHVUT AMI, West Bank -- With a pellet gun in his jeans pocket and a hammer in his hand, Dani Landesberg and a crew of teenage Jewish settlers began adding a second story to what has become their new home. They stole occasional glances down the winding access road in case the police came by to evict them, again.

Last Sept. 30, a dozen settlers moved into the small stone house at the base of a gentle hill in the northern West Bank and turned what was once a barn for donkeys into a synagogue. Two weeks later, Israeli security forces banished them for the first of eight times from land that a Palestinian family says is its property, a claim backed by legal documents and an Israeli human rights group.

The settlers returned the next day, so police sealed the windows and doors with metal siding and plowed a berm across the driveway, all to no avail.

"They can drag us away a hundred times and we'll come back," said Landesberg, 18, who like many religious Jews wears a yarmulke and long, curled sideburns. "And if the army wants to stay and guard it, then we win, because if the Israeli army is here, the land is being occupied by Jews."

In the incremental struggle for land in the West Bank, this "outpost," or Jewish settlement unauthorized by the Israeli government, and about 100 others like it, have emerged as a front line.

With a new round of peace talks underway, the Israeli government is under intense pressure to hand back parts of the occupied West Bank, starting with the outposts, according to the terms of the Bush administration's 2003 "road map," the basis for the current dialogue. First steps required of Palestinians include a halt to violent attacks on Israel.

On the eve of his visit to the region last week, President Bush called on Israeli leaders to "honor their commitments" and "get rid of unauthorized settlements." Palestinians say Israel's efforts thus far to remove outposts have been scattershot and insincere.

Settlers have responded to Bush's comments not by curtailing construction, but by expanding it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/12/AR2008011202409_pf.html

Only one thing is going to get Israel's attention here: cut off the money. Short of that they will continue to thumb their nose at you.

And Bush doesn't have the will or inclination to do what's necessary.

 

[blackadder]

And now Sarkozy calls Israel's policy "colonization":

But Sarkozy's France has reacted coolly to Israel's recent announcements that it was stepping up housing and apartment construction in the West Bank and in disputed East Jerusalem.
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"Israel's security depends on a stop to the colonization," Sarkozy told Peres during their meeting at the Elysee Palace. The comments were relayed to reporters by French presidential spokesman David Martinon.
Earlier Monday, French Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Pascale Andreani reiterated that France condemns continued colonization that could threaten the creation of a viable Palestinian state. She urged Israel to refrain from any unilateral action that could threaten the final status of Palestinian territories or the peace process.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/962843.html

Hmmm...

http://www.answers.com/topic/colonization?cat=health

And that is from a professed friend of Israel...

Bush calls it an occupation, Sarkozy colonization. And these are the conservatives!

Interesting in a subject area where words are usually chosen carefully.



Just gotta wonder when the Israelis will catch on and stop thumbing their noses:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7286264.stm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/jul/27/israel


The words are nice but the Isrealis aren't going to respond to anything other than duress and no one is going to apply duress.

 

[LSSpam]

blackadder is in hog heaven

 

[blackadder]

blackadder is in hog heaven

I think Bush and Sarkozy have been reading the EE board....