Cardell Hayes manslaughter conviction of Will Smith overturned by Supreme Court (3 Viewers)

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Someone will have to explain this one to me, because I'm lost.



In 2016, Cardell Hayes was convicted of manslaughter in the fatal shooting of retired New Orleans Saints defensive leader Will Smith. Monday, the U.S. Supreme ...
 

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So I guess there will be another trial.
 

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So I guess there will be another trial.
How do you not? Unless you offer him time served. But Hayes I'm sure will want total vindication so he can have an unlawful imprisonment case. Except there's the problem of the attempted murder on unarmed Racquel. So what do you tell her? I feel for her and their kids mostly in this whole thing.
 

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Money matters in Louisiana and the new DA Jason knows that, also seeing that he has 11 tax fraud charges in federal court right now. That’s always been the mantra unfortunately in Louisiana and New Orleans politics. They wont let someone claim self defense and the person dead has 8 bullets in his back. Not 1 or 2. The entire situation is sad, but I just don’t see them letting that slide. You have 300 other inmates under the same scenario due to the 10-2 law change and it’s a Pandora box that you can be opening. The DA isn’t necessarily there to assist the person he is putting and trying to keep in jail. That’s how they make money. He will be retried and stay in jail.
 

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He can't be retried for second degree homicide, though, that would be double jeopardy. But he can be retried for what they did try him for the first time which was manslaughter.
Not how I read it. He was tried on second degree murder, but the jury convicted on manslaughter. So the most he can be convicted of is manslaughter.
 

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I have lived in six states, spent time in 49 states and over 50 countries. Sure, Louisiana sucks, but not as bad as most places. The people are very nice, for the most part. I am very glad to be back in Louisiana. It is much better here, during the "global pandemic" than the last three states I lived in. All with a much higher "standard of living" but much lower standard of human being. I was born here, I have travelled and lived all of the country and the world. I will likely die here. That is ok by me!

Would love to know where you are moving, I am sure many people here can find something about it that reeks.
 
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Not how I read it. He was tried on second degree murder, but the jury convicted on manslaughter. So the most he can be convicted of is manslaughter.
That's not much different than how I said it. They can't decide to re-try him for anything but what he was convicted of. But I understand that semantics is going to be really important here. I was trying perhaps badly to explain that to re-try him on what he was convicted of does not invoke double jeopardy.

I'm really trying to be "just the facts" here.
 
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I have lived in six states, spent time in 49 states and over 50 countries. Sure, Louisiana sucks, but not as bad as most places. The people are very nice, for the most part. I am very glad to be back in Louisiana. It is much better here, during the "global pandemic" than the last three states I lived in. All with a much higher "standard of living" but much lower standard of human being. I was born here, I have travelled and lived all of the country and the world. I will likely die here. That is ok by me!

Would love to know where you are moving, I am sure many people here can find something about it that reeks.
I moved to Colorado and it's way better here, for me. I would love to move back home but the economy and politics don't allow it. Where did you live that had a worse sense of human? And what does that mean.
 

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I moved to Colorado and it's way better here, for me. I would love to move back home but the economy and politics don't allow it. Where did you live that had a worse sense of human? And what does that mean.
Places where many people who would not give you the time of day. NYC, SF, Philadelphia. Many nice people, but many not so nice. Louisiana has a lot of nice people. There are many problems, I will be the first to admit that, but the people are really nice.

I actually like Colorado a lot. I really wanted to Diss your new home, but that is a pretty nice state. Never lived there, been there many time. You got me, it is, in many ways better than LA. Still not moving there, but it is a very nice state. I was just thinking after my previous post, where would I actually want to live that is maybe better than LA? CO, UT, WY and Southern ID were on the list.
 
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