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My problem with Burrow is, he could be Tom Brady or he could be another college QB with gaudy stats that doesn't pan out. And this is the case with most rookie QBs, but you've seen a guy with 2 completely opposite seasons as a starter. I think he showed enough this past season through leadership, extending plays, accuracy etc to where you have to lean to him being a franchise QB and you have to take him #1. But, "system qb" is going to be the question on Burrow - 2 years ago he was a middle of the pack SEC starter. Then he has probably the greatest season in the history of CFB. The change? Joe Brady. The best situation for Burrow might for Carolina to trade for him - and Carolina has the draft positioning to make it happen.

Last thing we need is a elite level QB in our division for 10+ years. But for Burrow its situationally the best landing spot. Joe Brady is the OC and you have an elite RB as a check down.
Two years ago was his first year starting. His stats that year would have been as good as the 2019 SEC’s freshmen of the year. Look up the numbers. I don’t see how people are trashing his 2018 numbers as hard as they do. He literally joined the team two months before the start of the season after not having played for three years. In his first few games he didn’t know players‘ names. But that year he beat a good Georgia team and by the end of the year you saw the potential talent that showed up in 2019.
 

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Agree with all of this. I would only add that while Brady was awesome at LSU, NFL D Coordinators and players are on a different level than college. I think it will be very interesting to see how Brady handles the NFL competition on D.
Yeah, unlike the SEC, the NFL doesn't run 40 year old offenses, so what Brady did won't be new to anyone in his new job.
 

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Not taking Burrow would be a huge mistake for the Bengals. Draft him number one build for the future with talent already in place. If burrow forces the issue let him sit out. He will regret it.
He might regret it a little but not nearly as much as Cincy would regret missing out on all the picks and/or players they would have gotten for trading the pick.
 

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I had a draft party that day. Glorious. Back when you could have a ton of friends over because it was on a Saturday and not some whored out "prime time" corporate crap they made it into. Boiled 3 sacks of crawfish for me and 5 friends; great day to be Saints fan; one of their best drafts.
Yes those were the good old days of the draft. My ritual was crawfish as well. You could have the tv on for hours and hours. I wish they could go back to that format.
 

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.@Bengals I have been told are listening to offers for the #1 pick in the @NFL Draft from :

1. @Chargers
2. @MiamiDolphins
3. @Broncos
4. @ChicagoBears
5. @Buccaneers

I don't see a deal in place from any other team...
Actually this tells me they won’t be trading with anyone of those teams and are using them to leverage
 

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If the Saints trade to #1 it had better be for Chase Young.
You'll get shade for suggesting taking someone other than Burrow, but CY is likely the safer pick.

Hypothetical question: If you are the Bengals, sat on mountains of cap room, would you be willing to trade down with Chicago, if it gets you Khalil Mack as part of the deal? Is Mack at this stage better than Chase Young will be?

Of course, no one has used a player for pick trade to get the no. 1 spot for something like 29 years, so it's not happening, but as I say, hypothetical.

In all honesty, I think you'd take Young over Mack, but not sure.
 

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Young is not as safe as some of you think he is. He was shut down by Clemson and has disappeared in big games.

I'm not commenting on the likelihood of anything - I think the likelihood of getting that far up in the draft is basically zero. But my money would be on Burrow being a Pro Bowler over Chase Young.

Also to note - Cincinnati is actually not that terrible of a situation to go to, in the grand scheme of historical destinations for a #1 pick. They have a little bit of talent on that team. Not playoff talent, but not flaming garbage can talent like most #1 pick teams have. The flaming garbage can of talent holds the #2 pick this year.
 

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You'll get shade for suggesting taking someone other than Burrow, but CY is likely the safer pick.

Hypothetical question: If you are the Bengals, sat on mountains of cap room, would you be willing to trade down with Chicago, if it gets you Khalil Mack as part of the deal? Is Mack at this stage better than Chase Young will be?

Of course, no one has used a player for pick trade to get the no. 1 spot for something like 29 years, so it's not happening, but as I say, hypothetical.

In all honesty, I think you'd take Young over Mack, but not sure.
Not a chance.

And I say this honestly as a former fan of Vernon Gholston who looked every bit as much of a sure thing from Ohio St. Once upon a time.

Young looks every bit of a sure thing as there is in the draft but you never really know until they take an NFL field.

Neither Bosa brother is even as good as Mack.



I would take Young over a slew of lower rounders as trade bait, sure.

Over arguably the best pass rusher in the NFL now? Never.
 

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Not a chance.

And I say this honestly as a former fan of Vernon Gholston who looked every bit as much of a sure thing from Ohio St. Once upon a time.

Young looks every bit of a sure thing as there is in the draft but you never really know until they take an NFL field.

Neither Bosa brother is even as good as Mack.



I would take Young over a slew of lower rounders as trade bait, sure.

Over arguably the best pass rusher in the NFL now? Never.
Thanks, I was interested in the Young-Mack value comp and you delivered 👍
 

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My problem with Burrow is, he could be Tom Brady or he could be another college QB with gaudy stats that doesn't pan out. And this is the case with most rookie QBs, but you've seen a guy with 2 completely opposite seasons as a starter. I think he showed enough this past season through leadership, extending plays, accuracy etc to where you have to lean to him being a franchise QB and you have to take him #1. But, "system qb" is going to be the question on Burrow - 2 years ago he was a middle of the pack SEC starter. Then he has probably the greatest season in the history of CFB. The change? Joe Brady. The best situation for Burrow might for Carolina to trade for him - and Carolina has the draft positioning to make it happen.

Last thing we need is a elite level QB in our division for 10+ years. But for Burrow its situationally the best landing spot. Joe Brady is the OC and you have an elite RB as a check down.
That's not entirely accurate though. I wasn't sold on Burrow year one either, BUT, the fact that he transferred after spring ball, pretty late in the process, and had very little time to learn the playbook and develop timing and chemistry with the WR's, TE's, and RB's (and O-line).... in the NFL professional veterans who have been in multiple systems might be able to do this much quicker, but that's a tough task for any college athlete. Now when he had a month between the end of that first season and the UCF bowl game, he came back looking like a different QB.

All that said, he never looked inaccurate in that first year with LSU, always displayed toughness and grit, and looked like a world beater when his WR's didn't drop the ball. They (Chase, Marshall, Jefferson) had a 10,000 catch offseason with some pretty awesome drills Joe Brady brought over (not sure if you saw that video, it was glorious). All the sudden, these guys catch consistently and Joe Burrow looks "more accurate". I don't believe accuracy is something that improves leaps and bounds between one year and the next. A few throws in a game due to improper body mechanics & pressure are obvious to any coach. But the kind of "jump" Burrow's accuracy had, IMO, was much more to do with young WR's who worked their butts off to become professional and be in the right spot at the right time consistently.

Both years, he displayed the ability to process information quickly, work "like a coach" or a professional adult, and great leadership. That kind of work ethic is something developed over a lifetime, the ability to process quickly a Sean Payton offense and make the correct decisions with accuracy, while being a first class leader - those or qualities someone is either born with or not, and if you find a QB with that, you do what it takes to get him on your team, because they're aren't 10 playing in the NFL at any given time.
 

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