Saints Coach Ryan Nielsen (...can anyone think of an exception)? (1 Viewer)

ndcc

Saints' fan 4ever
VIP Subscribing Member
Gold VIP Contributor
Joined
Jun 4, 2005
Messages
18,716
Reaction score
25,852
Location
Sad to leave NOLA to AZ; going into ministry
Offline
Since Ryan Nielsen has been with the Saints, it seems that EVERY player he's coached on the D-line has shown marked improvement.

The exception has been when a player has been injured.

It's no secret that Nielsen will probably not be with us after this season... he's too talented.

:gosaints:
 

Saint Greg

SR is my life!
VIP Contributor
Platinum VIP Contributor
Joined
Sep 6, 2000
Messages
17,996
Reaction score
17,699
Location
USA
Offline
Since Ryan Nielsen has been with the Saints, it seems that EVERY player he's coached on the D-line has shown marked improvement.

The exception has been when a player has been injured.

It's no secret that Nielsen will probably not be with us after this season... he's too talented.

:gosaints:

I expect him to be with us after this season. He has the assistant head coach title so I don't think he can leave unless he gets a head coaching job like Dan Campbell did. That's a big jump for him. Campbell at least had experience as an interim head coach with the dolphins.
 
Joined
Aug 27, 2018
Messages
3,251
Reaction score
6,190
Location
Baton Rouge
Offline
Davenport is the main exception to me. He showed impressive growth year 1 and 2 adjusting to the nfl (despite injury) but took a step back on that trajectory year 3, though not that bad. That may have been partially due to Hendrickson's growth, which is really an endorsement of Nielsen anyway. Either way I think Davenport's main issue has been injuries. Every other d-lineman has been developing nicely, even if not linearly (ie Onyemata had a down year in 2019). I really like Turner's chances.
 
Joined
Sep 2, 2019
Messages
1,365
Reaction score
1,718
Age
41
Location
DC
Offline
I actually think if we have another good year. DA will be on the move and he will be our next DC. I feel he actually may want that job next anyway. One thing is for sure, dude is ambitious.
 

JvilleJoe

Subscribing Member
Platinum VIP Contributor
Joined
Feb 19, 2000
Messages
10,199
Reaction score
4,031
Offline
I actually think if we have another good year. DA will be on the move and he will be our next DC. I feel he actually may want that job next anyway. One thing is for sure, dude is ambitious.
Nothing wrong with that - being ambitious that is! Coaches getting opportunities are a positive for a staff, showing others that if you come ‘here’ you will get showcased if you do well.
 
Joined
Jul 1, 2019
Messages
2,205
Reaction score
4,264
Age
32
Location
Mississppi
Offline
Davenport is the main exception to me. He showed impressive growth year 1 and 2 adjusting to the nfl (despite injury) but took a step back on that trajectory year 3, though not that bad. That may have been partially due to Hendrickson's growth, which is really an endorsement of Nielsen anyway. Either way I think Davenport's main issue has been injuries. Every other d-lineman has been developing nicely, even if not linearly (ie Onyemata had a down year in 2019). I really like Turner's chances.
That lisfranc injury is the reason for the step back, no doubt. That's a tough injury on the foot a big guy uses to push off with. Just one of those things you hate, but things happen. I am expecting big things for Davenport this year, as he has some new competition and he wants to prove himself once and for all.
 

Saint Lattimore

Out on bond... Best Lawyer $$ can buy though..
Joined
Jun 14, 2018
Messages
5,567
Reaction score
15,438
Age
37
Location
Marietta, Ga.
Offline
I actually think if we have another good year. DA will be on the move and he will be our next DC. I feel he actually may want that job next anyway. One thing is for sure, dude is ambitious.
This^

I believe Allen signed a 3 year contract prior to the 2019 season, so that would mean that after this coming season, Allen will no longer be under contract.
I don’t think Dennis Allen sucks, but I don’t think he’s a special coach either. Neilsen (on the other hand) does appear to be a special kind of coach... I think he takes over as the DC after next season... and then ends up moving on within 2-3 seasons to take over as the HC somewhere.
 

whoami

Whodat Nation
Joined
Mar 16, 2007
Messages
521
Reaction score
474
Location
Irving, TX
Offline
I agree. He has done an amazing job coaching up the DL. His promotion to assistant head coach and being the only position coach to be in the draft war room speaks volumes as to what the organization thinks of him.

IMHO, if Coach Nielsen is smart, he can jump to a nice HC position by staying as asst. HC for 2 years and studying under Sean. If he leaves before 2 years, then he will definitely get fired due to immaturity. He should learn from Dennis Allen, too fast a move to HC, which burned him.

There are certain teams to avoid, because they can be coach killers.
 

whoami

Whodat Nation
Joined
Mar 16, 2007
Messages
521
Reaction score
474
Location
Irving, TX
Offline
This^

I believe Allen signed a 3 year contract prior to the 2019 season, so that would mean that after this coming season, Allen will no longer be under contract.
I don’t think Dennis Allen sucks, but I don’t think he’s a special coach either. Neilsen (on the other hand) does appear to be a special kind of coach... I think he takes over as the DC after next season... and then ends up moving on within 2-3 seasons to take over as the HC somewhere.

I pray this exact scenario does happen. It will have us avoid losing the first 2-3 games every year due to bad D. Nielsen >>>> Allen. I think we cannot lose the first 2-3 games due to bad D. Wake up Allen, and adapt us so that we hit the gas from the first game onwards. This way, you can definitely be a HC next year, win-win for all of us.

That said, who is the next Nielsen for us? :)
 

RJ in Lafayette

Super Forum Fanatic
Gold VIP Contributor
Joined
Jan 27, 1999
Messages
10,163
Reaction score
8,204
Offline
If Payton were to step down next year, Nielsen would be our next head coach. He is a future head coach. It is simply a matter of time.

I think it unlikely that Allen will get another head coaching job. Is he really considered one of the league's best coordinators? And chances are we take a step back on defense this year.

His time as HC in Oakland did not go well (though I am not sure that anyone could been successful at that time).

And does he really come across as a head coach? He is not someone I would want to be the face and head of my team.
 

whoami

Whodat Nation
Joined
Mar 16, 2007
Messages
521
Reaction score
474
Location
Irving, TX
Offline
Payton will not leave after this year. Maybe not until he has established this program back into relavance. IMHO, he may probably leave after 3 years. He can talk very well and can earn a decent living in the commentary box.

I agree, Allen to me, does not sound like a HC material right now, but then if one of the 31 clubs feel it, they can hire Allen to be HC, what do I know about coaching?
 

RJ in Lafayette

Super Forum Fanatic
Gold VIP Contributor
Joined
Jan 27, 1999
Messages
10,163
Reaction score
8,204
Offline
To be clear, I don't think Payton is leaving in a year. I simply offered that possibility as a hypothetical to show how much I think the organization values Nielsen.
 

Create an account or login to comment

You must be a member in order to leave a comment

Create account

Create an account on our community. It's easy!

Log in

Already have an account? Log in here.

Users who are viewing this thread

 

New Orleans Saints Twitter Feed

 

Headlines

Top Bottom