COVID-19 Outbreak Information Updates (Reboot) 33,544,983 US cases, 596,880 US deaths.] (43 Viewers)

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The original COVID-19 Outbreak thread has been closed but is still available as a read-only thread (sticky above). The original thread had become less and less about new information and more about petty bickering. The purpose of this new thread is to link or report new information as it comes out. Try not to go off course from the topic. Those of you who had been banned from the original thread feel free to participate in this new thread. Just stay on topic. Thank you.
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Bottom line is that moving forward we simply don't want any political bickering going on within this thread, and want to try to limit this thread to being as much about sharing Covid-19 information as possible.

If you want to discuss the political aspects of Covid-19 with other SR members, you can do so here (If you are not already registered there, you will be required to do so)...
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Note the vast difference in all age groups between covid related deaths and influenza. Some may be comingled with pneumonia.

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Note the vast difference in all age groups between covid related deaths and influenza. Some may be comingled with pneumonia.

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This was highlighted in the NYT piece I posted late last week. It basically makes the point that as we get to a stage where the primary risk of infection is to children, the mitigation effort may look different - mainly because this virus seems to have such dramatically mild effects on children.



 

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This was highlighted in the NYT piece I posted late last week. It basically makes the point that as we get to a stage where the primary risk of infection is to children, the mitigation effort may look different - mainly because this virus seems to have such dramatically mild effects on children.




has there been any research into the reason for the difference between kids and adults?

i remember reading about the possibility of the "immaturity" of a childs immune system, but dont recall any recent articles about studies showing if there has been additional research.

It sounds easy and it probably is that due to the "newness " of a childs immune system and being able to recognize just about anything, it starts to work immediately on COVID whereas adult immune systems are "programmed" over decades to react to things it has seen before, so response to a novel virus is not as quick.
 

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has there been any research into the reason for the difference between kids and adults?

i remember reading about the possibility of the "immaturity" of a childs immune system, but dont recall any recent articles about studies showing if there has been additional research.

It sounds easy and it probably is that due to the "newness " of a childs immune system and being able to recognize just about anything, it starts to work immediately on COVID whereas adult immune systems are "programmed" over decades to react to things it has seen before, so response to a novel virus is not as quick.

This appears to be a review of the different theories. It is published December 2020 after revision from a July 2020 draft, so not sure how up to date it is.

 

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We may need to take a booster shot for the new variants. I'll do so if needed. We are still learning
 

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We may need to take a booster shot for the new variants. I'll do so if needed. We are still learning

Indeed, variants are likely to be the next phase of the pandemic - a phase that is already well underway. So far, research suggests that existing vaccines protect well against the dominant variant B.1.1.7. So in the race between vaccine and variant dominance, B.1.1.7 doesn't appear to be poised to break vaccine protection. Of course people refusing it in large numbers, or the inability to deploy vaccine to outbreak locations will challenge those dynamics.

I think we're still figuring out if P.1 (Brazil) is protected by current vaccine. P.1 is in full spread in parts of Canada, which means that if P.1 becomes dominant over B.1.1.7, the question of vaccine protection for P.1 will become more immediate.

Early research suggests that existing vaccine will provide meaningful (though possibly not as strong) protection from P.1 and B.1.351 (South Africa) - so even if not as strong it's still far better. Moderna has already said it expects to have a variant booster by November.

Of course new, more worrisome variants can always emerge and they tend to emerge from uncontrolled outbreak situations - which is why it's not enough for the first world to get vaccinated and leave the rest of the world to fend for themselves. India already has a local variant (B.1.617) that is growing in its share of infection.




 

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I had a visit with a new client out in Eastern CO this week. They apologized for their extreme Covid precautions as the town is experiencing an outbreak. Two hospital employees post 2nd vaccination have Covid, though they stated that their illness is not horrible. One other hospital employee caught it 5 days post shot 1, and they said that employee got really ill. They are thinking a mutated strain is in the community.

Denver airport, Holy Schnitzels! Pre-pandemic crowd here, shoulder to shoulder, folks on top of each other. Denver Covid code obviously doesn’t apply here, but does everywhere else, I was fussed at standing outside at an outdoor bar, full sun light 10 yards from the nearest human being for not having a mask, while the other patrons who had a beer in hand were okay, I was still waiting for mine, all by my lonesome self.
 

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I had a visit with a new client out in Eastern CO this week. They apologized for their extreme Covid precautions as the town is experiencing an outbreak. Two hospital employees post 2nd vaccination have Covid, though they stated that their illness is not horrible. One other hospital employee caught it 5 days post shot 1, and they said that employee got really ill. They are thinking a mutated strain is in the community.

Denver airport, Holy Schnitzels! Pre-pandemic crowd here, shoulder to shoulder, folks on top of each other. Denver Covid code obviously doesn’t apply here, but does everywhere else, I was fussed at standing outside at an outdoor bar, full sun light 10 yards from the nearest human being for not having a mask, while the other patrons who had a beer in hand were okay, I was still waiting for mine, all by my lonesome self.

ill be passing thru there late may - but ill be 4 weeks post #2 Pfizer...
 

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Indeed, variants are likely to be the next phase of the pandemic - a phase that is already well underway. So far, research suggests that existing vaccines protect well against the dominant variant B.1.1.7. So in the race between vaccine and variant dominance, B.1.1.7 doesn't appear to be poised to break vaccine protection. Of course people refusing it in large numbers, or the inability to deploy vaccine to outbreak locations will challenge those dynamics.

I think we're still figuring out if P.1 (Brazil) is protected by current vaccine. P.1 is in full spread in parts of Canada, which means that if P.1 becomes dominant over B.1.1.7, the question of vaccine protection for P.1 will become more immediate.

Early research suggests that existing vaccine will provide meaningful (though possibly not as strong) protection from P.1 and B.1.351 (South Africa) - so even if not as strong it's still far better. Moderna has already said it expects to have a variant booster by November.

Of course new, more worrisome variants can always emerge and they tend to emerge from uncontrolled outbreak situations - which is why it's not enough for the first world to get vaccinated and leave the rest of the world to fend for themselves. India already has a local variant (B.1.617) that is growing in its share of infection.




Yep. I think the US case load is about to plummet and be limited to very isolated hot spots around the country.

From that point, it's going to be all about watching for a vaccine busting variants to emerge. With the actual case numbers in Brazil and India far worse than advertised, it's entirely possible a new variant emerges that turns everything upside down. For now though, I think Americans see a near full return to normal in another month. The biggest threat to the USA right now is to the economy if China starts heading down a bad path. As of today, they are less than 10% vaccinated with a vaccine that is not very good and case loads are blowing up in neighboring countries.
 
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Just out of curiosity, has anyone frequented a Business yet that dropped their mask requirement in Louisiana yet? So far, every place I've been, still have it required. Not that I mind, just curious.
 

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Just out of curiosity, has anyone frequented a Business yet that dropped their mask requirement in Louisiana yet? So far, every place I've been, still have it required. Not that I mind, just curious.


Yes. Including my office. Not all that keen on it ( the decision to drop requirement ), since out of 8 employees at my location, im the ONLY one vaccinated. So whatever. I dont get paid to make decisions.
 

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Just out of curiosity, has anyone frequented a Business yet that dropped their mask requirement in Louisiana yet? So far, every place I've been, still have it required. Not that I mind, just curious.
Everywhere around here requires a mask. And I don't think that's going away, at least not for a few more months.
 

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