COVID-19 Outbreak Information Updates (Reboot) 34,358,269 US cases, 615,958 US deaths.] (9 Viewers)

Saint_Ward

Don't be a Jerk.
Staff member
Administrator
Gold VIP Contributor
Joined
Mar 1, 2007
Messages
47,968
Reaction score
42,159
Location
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Offline
Small uptick in Pfizer, especially compared to the drop in Moderna.

Looks like it's probably 12-15yr olds.

1623080050457.png

Look like we're settling into this 1million per day range.

1623080088480.png

The concern is how many smaller counties don't have high 65+ vaccination rates.

The color code is set too high. Many of the light colored areas may be 60%, but many are also 25-35%. There may be some error in this data, since some states have up to 10-18% of their vaccinated not responding what county they're from.

1623080433255.png
 

AARPSaint

Super Moderator
Super Moderator
Gold VIP Contributor
Joined
Mar 6, 1998
Messages
24,805
Reaction score
19,460
Age
73
Location
West Chester, PA
Offline
Except that hasn't remotely worked.
At the risk of further derailing the thread, the problem is that we can't agree on what the facts are in many cases. It's as though there are facts and "alternative facts." I have never seen anything like the situation we have today. It seems that red can be green, water can be dry, 2+2 can add up to 5, and there was no pass interference on Robey-Coleman (not a matter of opinion in my view).

Now, misinformation needs to be corrected. For instance, there are real questions about early WHO, CDC, NIH, etc. reactions early in the pandemic--mainly due to the FACT that this was a NOVEL virus. "Novel" means "new." But so many people can't understand that long-range effects of the vaccine, for example, CANNOT be determined because it's impossible to calculate. And they can't grasp the concept that early reactions were "seat of the pants" because there was no history and therefore no data at the beginning. There is no issue of misinformation here. One can't evaluate a situation that is so new that there is no data or history unless one just guesses right--and that is not very scientific or reliable.

Misinformation abounds today. It seems as though anyone can assert anything, and the most bizarre and ridiculous pronouncements can and are regarded as fact. "I saw it on television." "I read it on Twitter"--therefore, it must be true. We used to joke about people seeing stuff on the internet--therefore, said stuff must be true. It's not a joke now; it's taken as fact, regardless of how outlandish. Until we can agree on what the facts are, we are destined to remain in this quagmire of conflict. And--to get finally to the point--that's the problem with the argument that if we just present the facts, then we can find the solutions--whereas, we can't even agree on what the facts are.
 

Eeyore

Flucifer
Joined
Aug 1, 1997
Messages
18,834
Reaction score
12,191
Age
50
Location
Ersetu
Offline
I do wonder if Covid was more serious for children if that would have changed anything in masking and distancing

if kids were getting hospitalized and dying would a lot of the craziness have still happened
If we keep goofing around, we might find out.

Without herd immunity the virus will have plenty of opportunities to evolve into a version that feasts on children.
 

Bayouboy

Football Genius
VIP Contributor
Joined
Dec 30, 2000
Messages
10,746
Reaction score
2,454
Age
47
Location
Vacherie, LA
Offline
If we keep goofing around, we might find out.

Without herd immunity the virus will have plenty of opportunities to evolve into a version that feasts on children.
What should we be doing? More lockdowns???
 

livefromDC

Subscribing Member
VIP Subscribing Member
Joined
May 12, 2006
Messages
10,253
Reaction score
17,775
Age
42
Location
Atlanta, GA
Offline
What should we be doing? More lockdowns???

No. Getting vaccinated. If the entire country approached the pandemic like the national (global) crisis that is is, we would have reached the vaccination levels required to dramatically decrease the chances of variants emerging on our shores.
 

faceman

Hall-of-Famer
Joined
Jun 1, 2000
Messages
6,736
Reaction score
7,245
Age
59
Online
What should we be doing? More lockdowns???
This is a great question. I just wish more people would get vaccinated. I saw a stat yesterday that saddens me.


Total number of doses
2,615,055 doses of the COVID-19 vaccine have been delivered in Mississippi

1,790,598 doses of the COVID-19 vaccine have been administered in Mississippi

Ms. has a population of 2.9 million. We've received enough doses to have almost every resident vaccinated. Only 34% have received one dose and only 27% are fully vaccinated. I can see a nasty variant developing here. We just don't know yet. This virus could disappear or be with us forever.
 
Joined
Oct 28, 2007
Messages
13,540
Reaction score
7,481
Location
LA
Offline
If we keep goofing around, we might find out.

Without herd immunity the virus will have plenty of opportunities to evolve into a version that feasts on children.

Ever since the CDC came out and said that if you're vaccinated, you don't need your mask... I don't see anyone wearing a mask... anywhere.

That's been almost a month... so shouldn't we be seeing insane spikes? I am traveling to Vegas this weekend.. wife and I are both vaccinated. I am in a ton of groups on FB and no one is wearing a mask in Vegas except workers it seems. Is COVID not a hot topic with the media right now?

The Louisiana department of health website is 2 week old data, so is there a more current place?
 

Doug B

Fanaticus Sanctii
Joined
May 16, 2000
Messages
6,755
Reaction score
2,663
Offline
Ever since the CDC came out and said that if you're vaccinated, you don't need your mask... I don't see anyone wearing a mask... anywhere.
Masks are still common in the New Orleans metro, for what it's worth. Masking has fallen from virtually 100% down to about 70-80%, though, with some variance.
 

Doug B

Fanaticus Sanctii
Joined
May 16, 2000
Messages
6,755
Reaction score
2,663
Offline
That's been almost a month... so shouldn't we be seeing insane spikes?
It's the reverse -- among the unvaccinated, there has been no insane decrease in cases-per-head:


 

livefromDC

Subscribing Member
VIP Subscribing Member
Joined
May 12, 2006
Messages
10,253
Reaction score
17,775
Age
42
Location
Atlanta, GA
Offline
Ever since the CDC came out and said that if you're vaccinated, you don't need your mask... I don't see anyone wearing a mask... anywhere.

That's been almost a month... so shouldn't we be seeing insane spikes? I am traveling to Vegas this weekend.. wife and I are both vaccinated. I am in a ton of groups on FB and no one is wearing a mask in Vegas except workers it seems. Is COVID not a hot topic with the media right now?

The Louisiana department of health website is 2 week old data, so is there a more current place?

You're responding to a poster who was responding to a hypothetical regarding increased disease/mortality in children. No one said anything about mask wearing in vaccinated populations.
 

Saint_Ward

Don't be a Jerk.
Staff member
Administrator
Gold VIP Contributor
Joined
Mar 1, 2007
Messages
47,968
Reaction score
42,159
Location
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Offline
Ever since the CDC came out and said that if you're vaccinated, you don't need your mask... I don't see anyone wearing a mask... anywhere.

That's been almost a month... so shouldn't we be seeing insane spikes? I am traveling to Vegas this weekend.. wife and I are both vaccinated. I am in a ton of groups on FB and no one is wearing a mask in Vegas except workers it seems. Is COVID not a hot topic with the media right now?

The Louisiana department of health website is 2 week old data, so is there a more current place?
Well, depends. Where are you at? Houston? A burb? Metro?

Also, the weather is pretty nice to be outside, always low transmission rates, UV light does a lot of damage to it.
 

Saint_Ward

Don't be a Jerk.
Staff member
Administrator
Gold VIP Contributor
Joined
Mar 1, 2007
Messages
47,968
Reaction score
42,159
Location
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Offline
Oh, and @jrdbrn , I just looked, guess we are getting an uptick now in a few places.

It's going to be a function of prior infections from last year and vaccination rate. If both were/are high, then new cases should be low.

Also, Vegas is seeing an uptick.

1623162426391.png


This data doesn't have prior infection totals to compare with. And some who were infected would have gotten vaccinated, so don't want to overcount. Even Kansas, technically down 1% from 14 days ago, is ramping back up, I expect it to be in the + territory tomorrow or the day after. 7 day averages take a while to move.



1623162638125.png


Now, to put Alabama in perspective It's up, but it's still at a near low. The question is will it be a small bump up, and what communities. i..e the most metro areas are probably more highly vaccinated, or were more harshly hit earlier, so they'll have a harder time getting a foothold again, but, the negative is that there are a lot of people in a condensed area. However, no one county in Alabama is really doing great with vaccinations, so not a big difference between metro and not.

1623162786794.png

A lot of these are small numbers, so big % change, but some are significant numbers, and it all depends on how many hospital beds are in smaller counties. If any (sometimes you need to go to the neighboring county).
1623162880614.png


It's a little early to see what's going on with Clark County Nevada, since they didn't report for the entire weekend. Also, I'm not sure how visitors are counted. It may depend on when they feel sick. Odds are, they might end up back home before they're symptomatic. At least, those unvaccinated.

1623163059807.png
 

faceman

Hall-of-Famer
Joined
Jun 1, 2000
Messages
6,736
Reaction score
7,245
Age
59
Online
Well, depends. Where are you at? Houston? A burb? Metro?

Also, the weather is pretty nice to be outside, always low transmission rates, UV light does a lot of damage to it.
Agreed, I believe we'll know more when Autumn comes and the days start getting shorter. We are currently in the month with the most intense sun rays and the longest days of the year. School is also out and there isn't much congregation from children.

I can only speak from personal experience. My fellow employees who didn't get vaccinated are still wearing masks.
 

Saint_Ward

Don't be a Jerk.
Staff member
Administrator
Gold VIP Contributor
Joined
Mar 1, 2007
Messages
47,968
Reaction score
42,159
Location
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Offline
Pfizer uptick is real, so, looking like kids. But look, also Moderna just moved up a bit, and J&J. Must be making some ground with community outreach (not much, but better than none).

1623163319044.png
 

Create an account or login to comment

You must be a member in order to leave a comment

Create account

Create an account on our community. It's easy!

Log in

Already have an account? Log in here.

Users who are viewing this thread

 

New Orleans Saints Twitter Feed

 

Headlines

Top Bottom