COVID-19 Outbreak Information Updates (Reboot) 52,510,978 US cases, 833,029 US deaths.] (14 Viewers)

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Interesting the difference in tone between this story and the cnbc article that spells doom and gloom, oh wait I mean dominate and overwhelm.
Both articles run 100% in opposite directions, each based off of a single person speculating.

Here's the good news. The one that thinks Omnicron will "Overwhelm" the world is basically saying it will do so much in the same way Delta did and he thinks vaccines will hold up at a pretty good level. This means even he thinks that people that have been fully vaccinated or have antibodies from previous infections will generally do well.

It's also worth noting that he is comparing the timeline of Delta in March to Omicron right now. In March Delta was already well established globally with about 10% of infections. Omicron is less than 1%. So the 6 month timeframe is the much more likely scenario in that 3-6 month guess.

The one point that is probably the most accurate is the undeveloped world is in trouble.
 
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What’s the next name after Omorican or whatever it is called? Good thing I did not throw away my masks. Going to store today to stock up on my TP and Bounty towels.

Oh and I got my booster yesterday. All is good.
 

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What’s the next name after Omorican or whatever it is called? Good thing I did not throw away my masks. Going to store today to stock up on my TP and Bounty towels.

Oh and I got my booster yesterday. All is good.
Pi. That'll be a fun one. Will it's R value be 3.14?
 

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Still early but natural immunity may not be as effective
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THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) — South African scientists are warning that reinfections among people who’ve already battled COVID-19 appear to be more likely with the new omicron variant than with earlier coronavirus mutants.

A research group has been tracking reinfections in South Africa and reported a jump with the arrival of omicron that they hadn’t seen when two previous variants, including the extra-contagious delta variant, moved through the country……..

 

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Still nobody talking about the virulence of Omicron.

And it's quite funny that you can rearrange the letter of Omicron to form moronic.
 

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When Delta first went big we heard non-stop how the age of those coming into hospitals got younger. Turns out it was because as you went down in age the vaccination rates dropped.

Early reports from South Africa are showing children under 5 being the group increasing the most with hospitalizations. Early data is also showing that almost all of the hospitalizations happening are in the unvaccinated people which will be really good news if it holds serve. It seems really obvious on face value but there is always the chance that people are being recommended for hospitalization because they aren't vaccinated and at a higher risk but it's unlikely since the numbers are so slanted.

So if it in fact mutated picking up characteristics of the common cold, is more contagious, the vaccines hold and cause less severe disease it would be about the best case scenario for countries that have access to vaccines. Basically just an acceleration towards covid becoming fully endemic.

More good news, the 4th wave a week after Thanksgiving is not showing as big of a spike as I anticipated. At least not on a national scale. The states that were increasing going into Thanksgiving look like they could be in a rough spot. The Northeast, Illinois, Ohio, Kentucky, Kansas in particular. The states that were on a hard decreasing trend are still headed down. The states that were flat still look pretty flat. The states bordering Canada that were so bad a couple of weeks ago are all coming down fast while states just to their south are heading up. The deep south that has been impacted so much like La, Ms, Al, Ga and Fl are still keeping things in check. The next 3-4 weeks in the states like Ms, Al and La will be very interesting to watch. If they stay low it may actually indicate some sort of immunity level was actually reached to help prevent widespread cases. I don't think any state in the CONUS has stayed above 100 cases per 10k in months and the individual states haven't really been hammered like they were last year. Way too early to celebrate but it's something. I still think last year the election was a massive catalyst for spread and thankfully we don't have that this year.
 
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Well that was quick. Here we go,




It's everywhere at this point. And seemingly originated outside of Africa as lots of people worldwide are getting it with no links to travel to Africa or others who have traveled. This thing was almost certainly circulating for weeks before South Africa identified it.
 
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It's everywhere at this point. And seemingly originated outside of Africa as lots of people worldwide are getting it with no links to travel to Africa or others who have traveled. This thing was almost certainly circulating for weeks before South Africa identified it.
I wonder if I had it? I had the sniffles last week. Nothing serious. I just figured it was my sinuses and I took some Allegra.
 

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It's everywhere at this point. And seemingly originated outside of Africa as lots of people worldwide are getting it with no links to travel to Africa or others who have traveled. This thing was almost certainly circulating for weeks before South Africa identified it.
Tbh, as with the early days of Covid I think this current strain has been around and is more widespread than what's been widely reported. I get why we're trying to do the travel restrictions, but it's ultimately pointless imo.
 

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Tbh, as with the early days of Covid I think this current strain has been around and is more widespread than what's been widely reported. I get why we're trying to do the travel restrictions, but it's ultimately pointless imo.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was already widespread and most of the world just didn't notice because so many were asymptomatic or had very little to no symptoms and it just never got discovered until it hit a region of the world that was extremely under vaccinated.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if it was already widespread and most of the world just didn't notice because so many were asymptomatic or had very little to no symptoms and it just never got discovered until it hit a region of the world that was extremely under vaccinated.

Every case already discovered that was mentioned in this article is said to be mild and improving and no hospitalizations.
 

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Tbh, as with the early days of Covid I think this current strain has been around and is more widespread than what's been widely reported. I get why we're trying to do the travel restrictions, but it's ultimately pointless imo.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was already widespread and most of the world just didn't notice because so many were asymptomatic or had very little to no symptoms and it just never got discovered until it hit a region of the world that was extremely under vaccinated.
I agree with these thoughts. If I had to guess, it evolved sometime in October and began circulating. I don't think genetic sequencing started picking up on it until mid-November in South Africa, where they have plenty of unvaccinated and do plenty of sequencing.

So we've been talking about this for about a week and a half now and pretty much all reports continue to indicate that vaccinated = no / mild symptoms. The month of December is going to interesting to watch how this plays out. The big takeaway is that you're playing a silly game by not getting vaccinated (which we've known for a long time now).
 

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So we've been talking about this for about a week and a half now and pretty much all reports continue to indicate that vaccinated = no / mild symptoms. The month of December is going to interesting to watch how this plays out. The big takeaway is that you're playing a silly game by not getting vaccinated (which we've known for a long time now).
It will be interesting to see when Omicron hits an area with lower % of vaccinated people.
 

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