COVID-19 Outbreak (Update: More than 2.9M cases and 132,313 deaths in US) (15 Viewers)

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Not sure either of those would be capable. Probably going to be a country that has a large portion of its border with water.

Australia and New Zealand could do it. Scotland, Ireland and UK could pull it off.

USA could do it if it coordinated a shut down with Canada, physically man the southern border and crank up coastal protections in South Florida.

More than likely though, we just need to get cases down to sub 1000 and have testing so widely available everyone gets multiple tests, plus an antibody test and system for people that have recovered to help keep things running. It's going to be super interesting to see how this thing plays out next fall.


Unfortunately, don’t think it’s possible for the U.S. to make it happen. IMO, it needs to be a country with a different kind of culture. Less “me” and more of socialist(democratic) country. A place where the people trust that the Government is looking out for the best of the country.
 

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The stuff I read about it is that this stuff doesn’t so much treat it, it just slows the viral replication. So if you go in early, this will buy some time for your body to catch up. If you are trying to treat patients further along, it’s too little too late.

I was wondering about this in reading about the mixed results

Maybe I can convince my doctor that I have malaria so I can start taking this now....
 
With scientists now suspecting the that virus is aerosolized by breathing or talking, 6 feet distance doesn't seem sufficient. I mean, if I am in a store and the person in front of me is infected and presumably breathing, when I walk through that cloud, I will at the very least, have coronavirus on my clothing. And worst case scenario, it would now be in my respiratory system.

 
Plaquenil in the treatment of this virus is HIGHLY DEBATED amongst infectious disease experts. First, there are infectious disease doctors who believe that Plaquenil is the treatment of MANY infectious diseases. Let's call them Plaquenil-prophets...and they are very vocal. There are many other infectious disease physicians who sort of just roll their eyes.

How do you think that Plaquenil, an anti-malarial medication, was even attempted in COVID-19 patients? It's not like physicians are randomly selecting medications off the shelf and testing them on real life patients. These small studies are done by...you named it...Plaquenil prophets...who consider the medication a magic bullet against difficult to treat infectious diseases.

Now...it doesn't mean that the Plaquenil prophets are wrong...this time, who knows, they could be right. But THIS is the exact reason for clinical trials...it does a good job of removing bias that absolutely ruins many studies. Without them...we are essentially practicing witchcraft in a non-scientific manner. I personally don't have an opposition to the use of Plaquenil off-labeled for COVID-19, but it's use has to be HIGHLY regulated. I personally don't think that it should used unless someone's on death's doorstep. I don't believe in it for mild disease or prophylaxis. I think that the patient with Rheumatologic disease who have been well controlled on their Plaquenil for decades should still have access to the med.

Do you know of any studies being done where people are being given Plaquenil at earliest onset of symptoms?
And what evidence would suffice for its efficacy?
 
With scientists now suspecting the that virus is aerosolized by breathing or talking, 6 feet distance doesn't seem sufficient. I mean, if I am in a store and the person in front of me is infected and presumably breathing, when I walk through that cloud, I will at the very least, have coronavirus on my clothing. And worst case scenario, it would now be in my respiratory system.

Then I guess we are all going to die. Fear and panic successful. Get the guns out guys. Smh
 
Do you know of any studies being done where people are being given Plaquenil at earliest onset of symptoms?
And what evidence would suffice for its efficacy?
The French study? I think showed that if it was given early it stalled the virus in those people and it gave their immune system time. For those who already had higher loads it was ineffective. At least that’s how I read it.
 
I'm sure it is pretty simple when you are reading a sheet of paper and not deciding what to put down on that sheet of paper.

It's like saying that it's easy to compose music because you can read it.

This conversation begs the question. Should pneumonia deaths be lumped into flu death statistics the way they currently do? Because most people that die from influenza dont actually die from the virus. They die from pneumonia. Just like covid 19.
 
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