COVID-19 Outbreak (Update: More than 2.8M cases and 131,118 deaths in US) (38 Viewers)

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It shouldn't be a big deal but with a large number of people unable to afford healthcare, and the anti vax crowd growing there's a small chance that this could be interesting.
 
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Gilead announces pricing structure for Rendesivir. US taxpayers helped fund the research and now Gilead is charging US insurers 30% more than the rest of the world.
That’s the case for the vast majority of drugs produced in the US — socialism for the research, capitalism for the sale.
 

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That's crazy, and we didn't even get the benefit of keeping the economy open (though Sweden didn't really see any benefit from that in the long run).

Seems like the "save the economy" approach will end up hurting the economy in the long run. It's almost as if you can't govern via catchphrase and emotion and expect good results.
 

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That's crazy, and we didn't even get the benefit of keeping the economy open (though Sweden didn't really see any benefit from that in the long run).

Seems like the "save the economy" approach will end up hurting the economy in the long run. It's almost as if you can't govern via catchphrase and emotion and expect good results.
August seems like it's an eternity away so November feels like it may never come. I'm terrified to see what the cases look like nationwide when it gets cold outside and cold and flu season start raging - as will COVID, even though it hasn't even stopped. We did that entire shutdown for nothing. It's going to take another one to contain this thing and that's going to require leadership from the top, something we've really been lacking throughout this whole thing. Louisiana postponing their phase three opening isn't enough, IMO. We should at least be rolling back to phase one. Edwards catch phrase of "People are saying they're done with the virus. Well, the virus isn't done with us," isn't enough to get people to take this seriously. You see it everywhere you go. Nobody (a majority of people really) is taking this thing seriously as the cases continue to skyrocket all around us.
 

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If anyone wants to read this article, a Dallas Morning News reporter and photographer were given access to the Covid area at Parkland Hospital in Dallas which is the county public hospital.

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If anyone wants to read this article, a Dallas Morning News reporter and photographer were given access to the Covid area at Parkland Hospital in Dallas which is the county public hospital.

Paywalled. :mad:
 

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Let me say this about wearing a mask. It's strange. Very surreal - I'm still not used to it. And I'm not going out much - it's usually to the store or for something "essential" so I guess I'm slower getting used to it, but it's so odd going to the grocery on a beautiful day and everyone (pretty much 95% at Rouse's these days) is in a mask. You can't see or feel the virus so there is a real temptation to just take it off niggling at the back of your mind.

I'm certainly not arguing against mask wearing and am all - in, but it really is kind of an unnatural thing. I guess I can understand why some succumb to not wearing them (although it doesn't make me any less mad).
 

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I saw this yesterday regarding the vaccine progress. What I quote below stood out to me.


Vaccine experts say it’s time to set public expectations. Many scientists don’t expect a coronavirus vaccine to be nearly as protective as the measles shot.

If the best COVID-19 vaccine is only 50% effective, “that’s still to me a great vaccine,” said Dr. Drew Weissman of the University of Pennsylvania.

“We need to start having this conversation now,” so people won’t be surprised, he added.

And for all the government promises of stockpiling doses in hopes of starting vaccinations by year’s end, here’s the catch: Even if a shot pans out -- and it’s one that your country stockpiled -- only some high-risk people, such as essential workers, go to the front of a very long line.

“Will you and I get vaccinated this year? No way,” said Duke University health economist David Ridley.
 

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August seems like it's an eternity away so November feels like it may never come. I'm terrified to see what the cases look like nationwide when it gets cold outside and cold and flu season start raging - as will COVID, even though it hasn't even stopped. We did that entire shutdown for nothing. It's going to take another one to contain this thing and that's going to require leadership from the top, something we've really been lacking throughout this whole thing. Louisiana postponing their phase three opening isn't enough, IMO. We should at least be rolling back to phase one. Edwards catch phrase of "People are saying they're done with the virus. Well, the virus isn't done with us," isn't enough to get people to take this seriously. You see it everywhere you go. Nobody (a majority of people really) is taking this thing seriously as the cases continue to skyrocket all around us.
So I'm thinking that WHEN we get shut down again in the fall / winter, shouldn't the number of cold and flu cases be lower than they normally would be in any other year? If we're not around each other as much so that we don't spread the Rona, then that should also make the other nasties harder to spread.
 

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So I'm thinking that WHEN we get shut down again in the fall / winter, shouldn't the number of cold and flu cases be lower than they normally would be in any other year? If we're not around each other as much so that we don't spread the Rona, then that should also make the other nasties harder to spread.
That would surely be a welcomed side effect. All virus transmissions should go down even if they don't do a lockdown and people just wear a mask but we've seen how that's worked out. I'd hope that if there isn't a lockdown they at the very least make wearing a mask mandatory and punishable by law. Not only would it help slow the infection rate but it'd be a big money maker.
 

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Wait up....am I reading this right? You can get Gilead's version of remdesivir for $2,300 or you can get Cipla's or Hetero Lab's version for about $66? Same basic drug, yes?
 

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August seems like it's an eternity away so November feels like it may never come. I'm terrified to see what the cases look like nationwide when it gets cold outside and cold and flu season start raging - as will COVID, even though it hasn't even stopped. We did that entire shutdown for nothing. It's going to take another one to contain this thing and that's going to require leadership from the top, something we've really been lacking throughout this whole thing. Louisiana postponing their phase three opening isn't enough, IMO. We should at least be rolling back to phase one. Edwards catch phrase of "People are saying they're done with the virus. Well, the virus isn't done with us," isn't enough to get people to take this seriously. You see it everywhere you go. Nobody (a majority of people really) is taking this thing seriously as the cases continue to skyrocket all around us.
Edwards has been pretty ineffectual since the resurgence started. Refusing to mandate masks while doing little more than tepidly encouraging people to wear them, Relying on catch phrases and folksy sayings instead of being firm and direct in his messaging ("people need to do a gut check" on masks is about as impotent as it gets). Pretending schools/universities will reopen in five weeks as if everything is OK. Acting like not going to Phase 3 is sufficient when every restaurant, bar, business, etc. has been utterly ignoring phasing guidelines for weeks. Weirdness with the LDH and their number totals. His second act with this has been incredibly disappointing thus far.
 

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So I'm thinking that WHEN we get shut down again in the fall / winter, shouldn't the number of cold and flu cases be lower than they normally would be in any other year? If we're not around each other as much so that we don't spread the Rona, then that should also make the other nasties harder to spread.
I think you're giving too much credit to people. The only thing I haven't seen so far is someone actively licking door handles but I imagine it's just a matter of time before I do.
 

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Edwards has been pretty ineffectual since the resurgence started. Refusing to mandate masks while doing little more than tepidly encouraging people to wear them, Relying on catch phrases and folksy sayings instead of being firm and direct in his messaging ("people need to do a gut check" on masks is about as impotent as it gets). Pretending schools/universities will reopen in five weeks as if everything is OK. Acting like not going to Phase 3 is sufficient when every restaurant, bar, business, etc. has been utterly ignoring phasing guidelines for weeks. Weirdness with the LDH and their number totals. His second act with this has been incredibly disappointing thus far.
I could not agree more. When he shut things down I thought he was doing a good job with his messaging and the whole shabang, but ever since the grand reopening of the state (which I think he did way too soon) he's really been ineffective in actual leadership by not mandating anything that actually prevents the spread of the virus.

In totally unrelated news: https://wwl.radio.com/articles/repo...ger Stadium should remain closed for the fall
 

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