COVID-19 Outbreak (Update: More than 2.9M cases and 132,313 deaths in US) (6 Viewers)

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sammymvpknight said:
We need a vaccine AND a good treatment. Ther eis some optimism with HIV drugs, such as remdesivir. They are being used, they from what I've heard, it may help reduce viral load (much like they do with HIV). This virus does appear to have a dose dependent effect to it. Once someone has ARDS and is on dialysis...this is an unbelievable difficult disease to treat (not unlike other diseases that cause ARDS and kidney failure). More physicians are advocating early treatment with the HIV drugs and/or hydroxychloraquine (depending on who you want to believe) and I think that the logic behind it makes since. But you don't have an unlimited amount of medication and it isn't very well studied right now, so patient selection is a bit of a question. But if we can prevent ARDS and acute kidney injury from happening in the first place, that's huge. Waiting until someone is on death's doorstep might be a little bit too late in the game. I definitely could invision the medicines being used in hospitalized, pre-intubated patients. I don't think that we have the supply and the research to suggest that it needs to be done in outpatients. I've heard some healthcare workers who get repeated exposure would like prophylaxis, much like prophylaxis is used for needle sticks in HIV patients, and I think that is very reasonable assuming that the healthcare worker truly is high risk and we have the national supply.

We will very likely be waiting a while for a vaccine. The soonest that a vaccine has been rushed into production is four years. One year seem optimistic. But certainly, a vaccine will be nice, especially in the high risk populations (healthcare workers, elderly, immunocompromised, family members of immunocompromised).
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Coronavirus Update (Live): 137,936,126 Cases and 2,969,761 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer

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www.bbc.com

New virus in China 'will have infected hundreds'

The virus emerged in December, two people have died and it has been detected in three countries.
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It shouldn't be a big deal but with a large number of people unable to afford healthcare, and the anti vax crowd growing there's a small chance that this could be interesting.
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Yay!!!!! PA has indeed allowed us construction workers to go back to work tomorrow. Waivers were previously given out, with no transparency or accountability, so while some companies were working, a small roofing company was fined for working. Our Governor, with financial interests in a certain cabinet making business, (life essential?) of course gave them a waiver.

So, yeah it has been frustrating. But tomorrow I am given permission to go work in an empty house, so the house can settle and buyer can move in.
Car dealerships, new and used were shut down, but now you can go online and pick one car you want to test drive. Not 2 cars. You then have to go home and go through the process again. Most of PA has just been going to neighboring states to buy a car.
Me bitter? No, I'm working tomorrow!!! I'm going to be so sore and out of shape from using muscles I haven't used in 6 weeks.
 
Saintaholic said:
www.businessinsider.com

Trump claims he has evidence the coronavirus originated in a Wuhan lab but that he's 'not allowed to tell' anyone what it is

Multiple intelligence officials have said there is no evidence so far to back up the theory that the coronavirus escaped from a Wuhan lab.
www.businessinsider.com www.businessinsider.com
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Not asking this directly to you, just in general. Why does this matter? I could see if it was being used purposefully as a bioweapon but that doesn't seem to be the case here.
 
gboudx said:
Not asking this directly to you, just in general. Why does this matter? I could see if it was being used purposefully as a bioweapon but that doesn't seem to be the case here.
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Maybe because China likes to spread the narrative that it started in the USA?
 
Eeyore said:
Russia is/was as well. I don't understand how pointing fingers helps right now.
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Well I would like to know where it started. Carelessness from a lab? And no, it wasn't a bioweapon, but the World needs to know how, and why it started. I do think it matters.
 
flygirl said:
Well I would like to know where it started. Carelessness from a lab? And no, it wasn't a bioweapon, but the World needs to know how, and why it started. I do think it matters.
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Why does it matter?
 
flygirl said:
Well I would like to know where it started. Carelessness from a lab? And no, it wasn't a bioweapon, but the World needs to know how, and why it started. I do think it matters.
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You have been told. It's a zoonotic virus (from animal to human).

If you don't believe it, then you are looking for a someone to blame.

That would be Mother Nature.
 
Ouachita parish saw what I think is the largest single day jump of 35 new cases today. Hopefully it was still due to the tornado a couple of weeks ago. However, I have to drive all over most of the parish and either install or repair cable for customers and lately there seems to be more traffic than a few weeks ago and more people not even attempting distancing.
 
Saintaholic said:
www.businessinsider.com

Trump claims he has evidence the coronavirus originated in a Wuhan lab but that he's 'not allowed to tell' anyone what it is

Multiple intelligence officials have said there is no evidence so far to back up the theory that the coronavirus escaped from a Wuhan lab.
www.businessinsider.com www.businessinsider.com
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I thought I had read that it was determined that this was a natural virus and not engineered

I don't know how you tell the difference but apparently you can and they did

This was two or three weeks ago

I'll see if I can find the article
 
Optimus Prime said:
I thought I had read that it was determined that this was a natural virus and not engineered

I don't know how you tell the difference but apparently you can and they did

This was two or three weeks ago

I'll see if I can find the article
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It's been determined by Scientists globally for a couple of months now but that doesn't fit the narrative of blaming everyone else. Be mad at China, not the leader of the USA that pretended it was the flu.
 
Optimus Prime said:
I thought I had read that it was determined that this was a natural virus and not engineered

I don't know how you tell the difference but apparently you can and they did

This was two or three weeks ago

I'll see if I can find the article
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Netflix now has a limited doc on SarsCoV2.

First episode is all about origins.

Its absolutely zoonotic.
 
bclemms said:
It's been determined by Scientists globally for a couple of months now but that doesn't fit the narrative of blaming everyone else. Be mad at China, not the leader of the USA that pretended it was the flu.
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So what you're saying is get ready for another round of "watch Trump's medical advisors and experts try to correct and contradict him in the gentlest way possible"
 
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