COVID-19 Outbreak (Update: More than 2.9M cases and 132,313 deaths in US) (6 Viewers)

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Ha, there it is... didn't take long to get a demand and labeled by the far end of one spectrum... all I had to do was bring up the fact that I don't argue everything with the wife, and actually concede unwinnable arguments that I know she won't budge on... for one to label me.... Hilarious... these are the thing people do when the can't attack an well made point... they instead label and attack the person. Completely expected. Thanks.
 
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Infoman said:
Picking out specific parts of a post, and responding to them only without the context and spirit of the entire post, so that's it's advantageous to your point of view... Is EXACTLY cherry picking... and you even did a poor job of it.
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You quite literally posted : "This is only a "common sense" solution if no one is allowed to travel between "closed" and "opened" areas.".... and obviously didn't read the part right after where I said exactly that in the post...

This tells me, without a doubt.. you had no intention of reading the entire post, trying to comprehend what I said, or gather the point I was making... you simply wanted to cherry pick what I posted to promote your thoughts.
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Dude, when I quoted your post above and started writing my response, it ended above the dotted line I added. Everything after the dotted line you must have edited in after I had already quoted it.

Maybe don't be so quick to make snap judgements about people and their motives.
Infoman said:
You did it again... you quoted only the part that supports what you want to say... so I will post it again...
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Actually, as I just showed you, no I didn't "cherry pick" your first post above. I quoted your entire post as it existed at the time I started my response. You must have edited it after I quoted it.
Infoman said:
You quite literally posted : "This is only a "common sense" solution if no one is allowed to travel between "closed" and "opened" areas.".... and obviously didn't read the part right after where I said exactly the same thing in the original post...
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Yes, I did say what you quoted. My next sentence said "that could potentially could cause more unrest and be more disruptive than what we are currently doing."

I saw and understood what you said about needing to put in transportation, sanitation and other measures to assure safety. I was actually agreeing with you that the travel restrictions would have to happen and that those very travel restrictions could be a net problem rather than a net solution.
 
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Ha, there it is... didn't take long to get labeled by the far end of one spectrum... all I had to do was bring up the fact that I don't argue everything with the wife, and actually concede unwinnable arguments that I know she won't budge on... for one to label me.... Hilarious... these are the thing people do when the can't attack an well made point... they instead label and attack the person. Completely expected. Thanks.
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I keep asking for evidence, you keep deflecting, then compared me to your wife (we're both women, see?!? so it fits!) Now you play the martyr. I see you've learned the playbook well.
 
StudioSaint said:
Dude, when I quoted your post above and started writing my response, it ended above the dotted line I added. Everything after the dotted line you must have edited in after I had already quoted it.

Maybe don't be so quick to make snap judgements about people and their motives.

Actually, as I just showed you, no I didn't "cherry pick" your first post above. I quoted your entire post as it existed at the time I started my response. You must have edited it after I quoted it.

Yes, I did say what you quoted. My next sentence said "that could potentially could cause more unrest and be more disruptive than what we are currently doing."

I saw and understood what you said about needing to put in transportation, sanitation and other measures to assure safety. I was actually agreeing with you that the travel restrictions would have to happen and that those very travel restrictions could be a net problem rather than a net solution.
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Whatever Dude... your responses are there.... you obviously didn't read everything I wrote and immediately started cherry picking to fit your argument with zero regard for the points I was trying to make...

You even threw in a clever Auschwitz Nazi concentration camp mantra to further condescend - and cheapen - and take out of context - what I was trying to point out... so you can stop... I am not buying your brand after that nugget.
 
Infoman said:
.... these are the thing people do when the can't attack an well made point... they instead label and attack the person. Completely expected. Thanks.
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Sincerely, do you not see how you've been doing this to me. Rather than discuss the points I made, you dismissively labeled me as partisan and accused me of cherry picking.

It took a few posts of me asking you what you thought I cherry picked, before you finally responded to one of the points I made. Even then, you only quoted that point in an attempt to prove I cherry picked. You still haven't actually discussed any of the points I made.

They say what we detest the most in others is often what we see in them as a reflection of ourselves. Just food for thought.
 
Infoman said:
What I see watching them both.... and wondering why we can't make common sense decisions using situational-based case by case location real-time data, and leave our ideology out of this:
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Because our real-time data is for shirt.

Why? Because our testing is for shirt. Talking heads can crow all they want, but until you and I and everyone else can get tested any time we want...would have to, in fact, actively avoid being tested multiple times, our testing capacity is not where it needs to be in order to begin a phased return.

Testing is Item 1 on virtually every single de-Quarantine plan.

We absolutely must know as quickly as possible if infection rates begin to spike so we can shut down again before it gets out of hand.

SARS-COV-2 has no ideology, it doesn't care, it just replicates itself. Understanding that the only way it can go anywhere is if we carry it is an ideologically neutral position. It's a simple fact.
 
StudioSaint said:
I think the problem stems more from arrogance which leads to a false sense of being superior to others, than it does from insanity.

I think if you're looking down your nose at others, then you're most likely contributing to the problems we're having as a society.
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Ironically, this is the same reason that a lot of people have an issue with organized religion. Basically, politics has become a religion. Immovable, inflexible and completely closed to any disagreement
 
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You even threw in a clever Auschwitz Nazi concentration camp mantra to further condescend - and cheapen - and take out of context - what I was trying to point out...
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I gave my honest reaction to the language you used. I told you the language you used sounded similar and at the same time I was very clear that I didn't think that's how you meant it.

I also asked you if you meant that people would be given work assignments and be told where to work. Your post seem to suggest that's what you think should happen.

You have yet to clarify what exactly you meant by people needing to be put back to work and needing to be sent to work in areas where infections are low.

ETA: @Infoman, at this point I'm bowing out of this Mobius strip, Mostly because you've edited several of your posts after I've already responded to them. I don't think it was intentional on your part, but your revisions really distort the actual flow of dialogue between us in a way that supports your mistaken accusations that I've been taking what you said out of context through selective quoting.
 
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