COVID-19 Outbreak (Update: More than 2.9M cases and 132,313 deaths in US) (4 Viewers)

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0rion said:
Ohio opens hair salons and outdoor dining May 15 and indoor dining May 21. Guess we'll just have to see. Quite a few required safety guidelines in place and I guess it has to open at some point. I won't be eating out or doing any of that for awhile really. We're going to do exactly what we've been doing.
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Yep, no barbers, gyms or large gatherings for me. We're content with making a weekly trip to the store for food and other necessities. Amazon for pretty much anything else. If other people want to be guinea pigs, good luck to them.
 
0rion said:
Ohio opens hair salons and outdoor dining May 15 and indoor dining May 21. Guess we'll just have to see. Quite a few required safety guidelines in place and I guess it has to open at some point. I won't be eating out or doing any of that for awhile really. We're going to do exactly what we've been doing.
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Outdoor seating you should be fine so long as employees take proper precautions.

I think we will venture out soon to do just this. Friend and wife whent to Chimes this week- sat outside and said everyone was in proper attire and tables were 10 ft apart - he is a CRNA - so i trust his judgement.

I guess if its overly-crowded and busy, that is up to you. But venturing out for a meal where precautions are adhered to, should be just fine.
 
efil4stnias said:
Outdoor seating you should be fine so long as employees take proper precautions.

I think we will venture out soon to do just this. Friend and wife whent to Chimes this week- sat outside and said everyone was in proper attire and tables were 10 ft apart - he is a CRNA - so i trust his judgement.

I guess if its overly-crowded and busy, that is up to you. But venturing out for a meal where precautions are adhered to, should be just fine.
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Agreed. I wouldn't mind eating at a location with outdoor seating and sensible precautions are practiced. Most restaurants here are doing no contact service and usually you just grab your food and go, with one customer allowed inside at a time to get their food.

If there are too many people in any given location, we just avoid it. We are patient and can wait for safer options.
 
Loose Cannon said:
The article cites a huge amount of very credible sources from very credible universities. I tend to believe this over an unpublished paper with no actual hard evidence from a web site that will publish anything.
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There are way more studies that have been peer reviewed on the issue. It is not just one preprint article.
 
superchuck500 said:
Note the semantics involved here - his point is that while there are variations resulting viral replication, they are almost entirely inconsequential as to the virus's relationship to humans. He's not saying there aren't identifiable variations in the genome, he's saying calling them "different strains" and speculating about their infectiousness or pathology is overblown - the differences may be scientifically true, but the impact is not appreciable.

I have seen similar analysis. All identified "strains" of SARS2 still share 80% of the same genome . . . in the animal world, that would mean substantial differences (i.e. chimps and humans share 98% of the same DNA), but apparently in the world of RNA viruses, that's actually very, very close.
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I've seen the same stuff. There are tons of mutations that are irrelevant to function. But it appears there are a few that do seem to alter function.

Basically I think declaring anything on this virus one way or the other at this point is pointless. All of these headlines mostly get it wrong upon further study. There are a ton of fear mongering news articles and then a few of the ones like these. Neither have much merit.
 
DaveXA said:
Agreed. I wouldn't mind eating at a location with outdoor seating and sensible precautions are practiced. Most restaurants here are doing no contact service and usually you just grab your food and go, with one customer allowed inside at a time to get their food.

If there are too many people in any given location, we just avoid it. We are patient and can wait for safer options.
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Here in West Chester, outdoor dining is, or rather was, prevalent. There is discussion about closing down streets to vehicular traffic so that merchants and restaurants can open eventually with a lot of outdoor commerce. If they can figure out how to assign the one-way streets, I can envision it working because it's so much a part of this town's culture.
The main problem will probably consist in people complaining that they can't drive on certain streets, thereby having their freedom taken away.
 
Ridiculous, and a lot of people are gonna die from thinking like this...

www.nbcnews.com

'What are we doing this for?': Doctors are fed up with conspiracies ravaging ERs

"I left work and I felt so deflated," one doctor said about an effort to counter misinformation he saw on Facebook. "I let it get to me."
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Dr. Duncan Maru, a physician and epidemiologist in Queens, New York, said he had heard from colleagues that a young patient had come into the emergency room last week with damage to his intestinal tract after having ingested bleach. The incident occurred just days after President Donald Trump suggested that "injection" of disinfectants should be researched as a potential coronavirus treatment.

"Folks delaying seeking care or, taking the most extreme case, somebody drinking bleach as a result of structural factors just underlines the fact that we have not protected the public from disinformation," Maru said.

The structural factors in this case include Facebook, YouTube and Twitter, which have struggled to contain the spread of misinformation, some of it coming from positions of authority.
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DaveXA said:
I think I'll just go be a homeless man in SF. :yes:
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i doubt they giving away that hydro for free. prolly some mexi dirt weed that gives you a headache 15 min after smokin. ;)
 
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