Crazy downfield passing stat on Stafford vs. Brees (2 Viewers)

[SAINTSFAN]

Courtesy of Underhill’s piece.

Throws of 25+ air yards since 2017:

-Stafford: 158 downfield throws in 56 games
-Brees: 75 downfield throws in 54 games

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So has downfield throws become the end all for QBs now?

 

[Jesse Custer]

So has downfield throws become the end all for QBs now?

Remember how integral ghost motion and play action passes were for a decade? How the Saints terrorized opposing defenses because they didn't know what was coming? It's hard to run a pure WCO with no threat of the deep ball.

 

[Saint Greg]

So the only things changed were the GOAT at QB, an actual run game, a HOF tight end who's still a great inline blocker, a WR who despite being a headcase is a real threat, and a right tackle with an 82.2 grade at PFF who gave up a single sack this season. (just busting your chops, Greg )

I'll trust Sean with whoever he decides to go with. But Stafford does have a quick release and a cannon of an arm. Winston has a slower release, but hasn't reached his ceiling yet.

Well the QB upgrade is kind of the point. They wouldn’t be in the super bowl with Jameis. Antonio Brown wasn’t on the team the entire season and didn’t play yesterday. Gronk isn’t a hall of fame tight end anymore. Winston’s 30 ints are what got them the right tackle.

 

[Jesse Custer]

They also have a run game this season and Gronk is still an impactful blocker, which, if you notice, their offense improved dramatically when they ran max protect and were able to keep Brady upright. All I'm saying is we haven't seen the best of Jameis.

 

[Optimistic Ozzy]

So the only things changed were the GOAT at QB, an actual run game, a HOF tight end who's still a great inline blocker, a WR who despite being a headcase is a real threat, and a right tackle with an 82.2 grade at PFF who gave up a single sack this season. (just busting your chops, Greg )

I'll trust Sean with whoever he decides to go with. But Stafford does have a quick release and a cannon of an arm. Winston has a slower release, but hasn't reached his ceiling yet.

And to this point, Winston has showed a lack of maturity and has never been a leader.

 

[Saint Greg]

They also have a run game this season and Gronk is still an impactful blocker, which, if you notice, their offense improved dramatically when they ran max protect and were able to keep Brady upright. All I'm saying is we haven't seen the best of Jameis.

1521 team rushing yards last year, 15 tds. 1519 team rushing yards this year 16 tds.

 

[Booker]

And to this point, Winston has showed a lack of maturity and has never been a leader.

That's my concern with him. He comes across more court jester than captain of the guard.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

I do no want to give up a 1st, 2nd and 3rd round pick (which it will possibly take) for this guy when we're already losing talented players due to cap concerns.

Same.

 

[Ihartsaints]

No, not a lot. We'll restructure many. Will we lose some, sure.

Hopefully, the NFL will help mitigate the cap issues caused by CV19.

Even so, our financial position is relative to other teams and would remain abysmal.

In the bidding to keep the players we want, most teams will have more coin than we do.

 

[2009ring]

I haven't read every response but does anyone think this could have something to do with the amount of time the Lions spend down by double digits vs. the Saints being up by double digits??

 

[Saint Spud]

I haven't read every response but does anyone think this could have something to do with the amount of time the Lions spend down by double digits vs. the Saints being up by double digits??

Sure. But combine it with the visual evidence of Stafford effortlessly throwing dimes 30-40 yards away and Brees’ deterioration and it’s just another piece of evidence of what this offense could be.

 

[Pkessling]

I haven't read every response but does anyone think this could have something to do with the amount of time the Lions spend down by double digits vs. the Saints being up by double digits??

How many of those downfield passes were desperation Hail Marys? I live in MI and the Lions are on every week.

 

[Super44]

Courtesy of Underhill’s piece.

Throws of 25+ air yards since 2017:

-Stafford: 158 downfield throws in 56 games
-Brees: 75 downfield throws in 54 games

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Does not surprise. And certainly should not surprise, anyone.

 

[Super44]

They also have a run game this season and Gronk is still an impactful blocker, which, if you notice, their offense improved dramatically when they ran max protect and were able to keep Brady upright. All I'm saying is we haven't seen the best of Jameis.

Certainly he (Winston) had plenty enough talent around him. I am not sold on Winston, nor Hill.

 

[St. Pike]

The bottom line is that having a deep ball game will certainly make whatever we are currently doing more effective. Our offense was nearly unstoppable with the long ball.


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