Deandre Brown commits to USM. (1 Viewer)

lsu31always

Guest
Joined
Oct 22, 2005
Messages
2,089
Reaction score
4
Age
32
Offline
Who do we think we are?


DeAndre will give LSU nightmares on November 7th 2009
 

weightlifter316

Kevin Gates 4 President
Joined
Jun 3, 2007
Messages
2,762
Reaction score
1,444
Offline
Congrats. Nice kid who just couldn't get his grades in order. Hope he does big things with yall
 
OP
kewee

kewee

I exist as I am, that is enough
VIP Contributor
Joined
Jun 23, 2005
Messages
7,727
Reaction score
1,675
Location
Mississippi
Online
Deandre Brown *****
Bo Tillman ****
Freddie Parham ****
Charles Mitchell ****
Bud Barksdale***
Desmond Johnson ***
Willie Packer ***
Joel Ross ***

Those are the biggest of our recruits right there.
 

slaym

Super Forum Fanatic
VIP Contributor
Joined
Jan 8, 2002
Messages
10,050
Reaction score
3,599
Age
46
Location
Troy, AL
Offline
Big signing for us.
 

LSSpam

Practice Squad
Joined
Jun 2, 2002
Messages
28,419
Reaction score
8,141
Age
38
Location
Oxford, MS
Offline
Deandre Brown *****
Bo Tillman ****
Freddie Parham ****
Charles Mitchell ****
Bud Barksdale***
Desmond Johnson ***
Willie Packer ***
Joel Ross ***

Those are the biggest of our recruits right there.
To be fair.

Bo Tillman is going JUCO
Parham is a JUCO
You don't have Charles Mitchell
And Bud Barksdale was released by Ole Miss (no one else is recruiting him).

Packer will be a good one though. I'm not too familiar with Ross or Johnson.
 
OP
kewee

kewee

I exist as I am, that is enough
VIP Contributor
Joined
Jun 23, 2005
Messages
7,727
Reaction score
1,675
Location
Mississippi
Online
To be fair.

Bo Tillman is going JUCO
Parham is a JUCO
You don't have Charles Mitchell
And Bud Barksdale was released by Ole Miss (no one else is recruiting him).

Packer will be a good one though. I'm not too familiar with Ross or Johnson.
I'm pretty sure Chalres Mitchell is almost a lock to come to Southern Miss. And anyway, what people must understand is that this was a huge recruiting class for us. Sinply huge. The entire coaching staff has only been here for a little over 4 weeks. Just think about all that.

About Desmond Johsnon and Joel Ross. Johnson is a very underrated back from Yazoo City. He broke his leg after like 5 games into the season, but still maged to rack up 1000 yds on the ground.

Joel Ross: Don't know a whole lot about him, although he was ranked as one of the highest DL prospects in LA. He's a big guy. 6''1 310.
 
Last edited:

st dude

The dotless one
Super Moderator
Diamond VIP Contributor
Joined
Feb 1, 1998
Messages
15,457
Reaction score
16,929
Offline
http://www.sunherald.com/sports/story/342015.html

Yes!!! Huge day for us. And probably the best recruiting class we've ever had. Now, I just hope he doesn't change his mind.

To the top, baby! To the Top!!!!!
Congrats Kewee. Brown is likely the biggest name at USM since Favre. I hope he can get eligible and look forward to seeing him play in Tiger stadium.
 

LSSpam

Practice Squad
Joined
Jun 2, 2002
Messages
28,419
Reaction score
8,141
Age
38
Location
Oxford, MS
Offline
I'm pretty sure Chalres Mitchell is almost a lock to come to Southern Miss
No. This isn't a Lawrence situation where you always had 0% chance no matter what you heard, Mitchell could go USM, but he's not a lock and USM isn't even the favorite (Nebraska is)

And anyway, what people must understand is that this was a huge recruiting class for us. Sinply huge. The entire coaching staff has only been here for a little over 4 weeks. Just think about all that.
UM was set to take an enormous amount of academically-at-risk kids. Principal among them, Josh Tillman, Willie Packer, Quinn Sanford, etc. Nutt dropped almost all of them, in some cases to bring in his own personnal recruits (Justin Smith for Willie Packer, Gerald Rivers for Josh Tillman), or just because he didn't like the player (Quinn Sanford). Hughes was able to bring this recruiting class in large part to USM except for the players other SEC schools wanted (Tig retained by UM, Alonzo to Bama, Wadley to Auburn, etc).

Let me tell you what to expect.

MOST of those kids will qualify. I know a lot of UM people or other fans will say "player X has no chance to qualify", they're wrong. Most will.

The problem is, you will go through the summer and even into August when most teams are practicing already waiting for these kids to qualify as they get declared LD, take correspondence courses, and work their way through the NCAA clearing house. Ole Miss had to endure this for 3 years. Then, once the kid is in school, you'll have to sweat him academically every year in school.

It's a good method to increase your talent level, again, it's the Ed Orgeron plan so i'm familiar with it. You bring in a lot of prospects most other schools wouldn't touch but have a high level of talent.

The problem, and this was for Ole Miss, maybe it won't hold true for you, is you end up with an inherently, well i'll be honest, "stupid" team that is constantly struggling to stay qualified. You end up with juniors like Rory Johnson entering the NFL draft despite not being anywhere near ready because they are in such bad shape academically, players like Ted Laurent, Chris Strong, or Brent Schaeffer who don't get onto campus until September because they can't get cleared, or guys like Mico McSwain who just disappear due to grades (he couldn't even make it to his Junior year in order to prematurely declare like Rory did. Our record holder for most rushing yards as a Freshman, breaking Deuce's record, lasted 2 years at Ole Miss).

Now, it may not turn out like that for you guys. There are pretty good odds Fedora is a flat-out better coach then Orgeron which may make a significant difference. I'm just giving you a heads up on what to expect.
 

RaptorBpW

Guest
Joined
Mar 7, 2002
Messages
275
Reaction score
0
Age
35
Offline
The good news is Southern Miss has always placed an extremely high emphasis on graduating its players, as evidenced by our graduation rates, which have been as high as 92%. This wasn't a Bower thing but rather is a part of the athletic establishment here. Lots of support.
 
OP
kewee

kewee

I exist as I am, that is enough
VIP Contributor
Joined
Jun 23, 2005
Messages
7,727
Reaction score
1,675
Location
Mississippi
Online
No. This isn't a Lawrence situation where you always had 0% chance no matter what you heard, Mitchell could go USM, but he's not a lock and USM isn't even the favorite (Nebraska is)



UM was set to take an enormous amount of academically-at-risk kids. Principal among them, Josh Tillman, Willie Packer, Quinn Sanford, etc. Nutt dropped almost all of them, in some cases to bring in his own personnal recruits (Justin Smith for Willie Packer, Gerald Rivers for Josh Tillman), or just because he didn't like the player (Quinn Sanford). Hughes was able to bring this recruiting class in large part to USM except for the players other SEC schools wanted (Tig retained by UM, Alonzo to Bama, Wadley to Auburn, etc).

Let me tell you what to expect.

MOST of those kids will qualify. I know a lot of UM people or other fans will say "player X has no chance to qualify", they're wrong. Most will.

The problem is, you will go through the summer and even into August when most teams are practicing already waiting for these kids to qualify as they get declared LD, take correspondence courses, and work their way through the NCAA clearing house. Ole Miss had to endure this for 3 years. Then, once the kid is in school, you'll have to sweat him academically every year in school.

It's a good method to increase your talent level, again, it's the Ed Orgeron plan so i'm familiar with it. You bring in a lot of prospects most other schools wouldn't touch but have a high level of talent.

The problem, and this was for Ole Miss, maybe it won't hold true for you, is you end up with an inherently, well i'll be honest, "stupid" team that is constantly struggling to stay qualified. You end up with juniors like Rory Johnson entering the NFL draft despite not being anywhere near ready because they are in such bad shape academically, players like Ted Laurent, Chris Strong, or Brent Schaeffer who don't get onto campus until September because they can't get cleared, or guys like Mico McSwain who just disappear due to grades (he couldn't even make it to his Junior year in order to prematurely declare like Rory did. Our record holder for most rushing yards as a Freshman, breaking Deuce's record, lasted 2 years at Ole Miss).

Now, it may not turn out like that for you guys. There are pretty good odds Fedora is a flat-out better coach then Orgeron which may make a significant difference. I'm just giving you a heads up on what to expect.
Fedora came to Southern Miss, and made it clear that character was very important. He went out and hired Christian coaches to come in and help these guys. Now I know, not all Christians are good people, but Fedora knew these guys inside and out, and had faith in them to be great coaches. I flat-out believe that this will not be a problem like it was for you guys. Hearing Fedora speak, you know he's a smart guy, a family man, and genuinly cares about his players, not some oaf who yells and speaks like a bafoon, like Oregeron. I'm sorry, but the day you guys hired Oregeron, I had a feeling he wouldn't be around long. I get a totally different feeling with Fedora. Do this for me Spam, simply admit that you never would have thought USM would have a class like this under a first year head coach. Just do it.


BTW, Mico Mcswain will try to walk on for us at USM.
 

LSSpam

Practice Squad
Joined
Jun 2, 2002
Messages
28,419
Reaction score
8,141
Age
38
Location
Oxford, MS
Offline
Fedora came to Southern Miss, and made it clear that character was very important. He went out and hired Christian coaches to come in and help these guys. Now I know, not all Christians are good people, but Fedora knew these guys inside and out, and had faith in them to be great coaches. I flat-out believe that this will not be a problem like it was for you guys. Hearing Fedora speak, you know he's a smart guy, a family man, and genuinly cares about his players, not some oaf who yells and speaks like a bafoon, like Oregeron.
:hihi:

And then he went out and hired Orgeron's assistant coaches and brought in a lot of Orgeron's recruiting class

Maybe the man at the top will make all the difference in the world, but it's Orgeron's gameplan he's following so :shrug:
 

peytonknows

Super Forum Fanatic
Joined
Jun 15, 2002
Messages
5,917
Reaction score
15
Offline
Fedora came to Southern Miss, and made it clear that character was very important. He went out and hired Christian coaches to come in and help these guys. Now I know, not all Christians are good people, but Fedora knew these guys inside and out, and had faith in them to be great coaches. I flat-out believe that this will not be a problem like it was for you guys. Hearing Fedora speak, you know he's a smart guy, a family man, and genuinly cares about his players, not some oaf who yells and speaks like a bafoon, like Oregeron. I'm sorry, but the day you guys hired Oregeron, I had a feeling he wouldn't be around long. I get a totally different feeling with Fedora. Do this for me Spam, simply admit that you never would have thought USM would have a class like this under a first year head coach. Just do it.


BTW, Mico Mcswain will try to walk on for us at USM.
The boasting is sort of weird with your posts. No doubt you should be happy but the circumstances under which you are getting these players is really nothing to be happy about. It's not like your winning recruiting battles, your winning battles of standards academically (or lack of). I can see why you would be happy, and you should be as a fan of the team but let's be honest with everyone here and realize exactly why you are getting these players. Great recruiting staff? Probably not.
 

MLU

Please respect my decision!
Joined
Apr 28, 1999
Messages
55,010
Reaction score
20,772
Location
Mesa, AZ
Offline
Congrats, Eagles. Now go find him a Qb and a couple blockers...
 
OP
kewee

kewee

I exist as I am, that is enough
VIP Contributor
Joined
Jun 23, 2005
Messages
7,727
Reaction score
1,675
Location
Mississippi
Online
The boasting is sort of weird with your posts. No doubt you should be happy but the circumstances under which you are getting these players is really nothing to be happy about. It's not like your winning recruiting battles, your winning battles of standards academically (or lack of). I can see why you would be happy, and you should be as a fan of the team but let's be honest with everyone here and realize exactly why you are getting these players. Great recruiting staff? Probably not.
Uggh, not again. I know that. I know we weren't his first choice, but once again, we got him, and that's all that matters. The simple fact is, that Jeff Bower would have never touched this guy, and we wouldn't have half of what we've got now if he were still recruiting. That's it. I'm just so happy we've got someone that wants to make this team better, and won't back down. We didn't have that in Jeff Bower. That's why I'm "boasting." If that's what you want to call it.
 

Create an account or login to comment

You must be a member in order to leave a comment

Create account

Create an account on our community. It's easy!

Log in

Already have an account? Log in here.

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 1)



New Orleans Saints Twitter Feed

Headlines

Top Bottom