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am i the only one who thinks we need another defensive end on this team with good pass rushing skills?? i can see this team drafting a DE somewhere in this draft. i know with grant being paid and smith soon to be paid theres no way we can afford 3 high priced DE's. with new corners and more pressure on the qb this defense can hopefully be solid.
 

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I hear you. Grant playing so un-explosively after his huge contract extension was dissapointing. If we do draft a guy itll be the later rounds. Pretty sure the front office is just going to hope that Grant has a much better.
 

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Yeah, I think we need to draft a pass rush specialist, someone who isn't a complete DE and needs time to develop into that, but can come in on 3rd downs or pass rush situations and provide a spark, we like to move Grant inside on some blitz packages and Cooper isn't really a "pass rusher", we need to get more specific when it comes to backups, they gotta "provide" something besides being the guy behind a guy.
 

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i think we need a Defensive coordinator that knows how to use his DE's. If you watch our pass rush both our DE's run out wide about 2-3 yards deep then kind of hold there guy there to read and react. We don't use them to stunt or just bull rush but more to contain in hopes of the DT's collapsing the pocket. I don't know if anyone else has seen this but i've noticed it way to many times when we needed pressure on the QB. I really think Gibb's system just flat sucks.
 

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I dont thionk we need one its just that we need a new coordinator who should learn to rush people besides the D-Line
 

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I wouldn't be surprise or upset if we selected a DE in round 4 or 5. They could come in and backup either Smith or Grant on third downs. Heck, the could bring him in and slide Grant over on certain plays and toy with the offense. Also, we don't know what is going to happen to W. Smith yet. He had an off year. Another one like this past one and the FO may let him test the waters or there could be a contract dispute and a hold out. You don't think the team wants to have some type of contingency plan in place? We've got NO ONE of quality at the moment. We'll need to get some sort of insurance policy and the draft is the best way to do it for that position....young, cheap and trainable under two great DE's. We did it with Howard and no one seems to be upset with that today? We did it with Ricky and no one seems to be upset now?

I have faith that is a position we'll definitely address in the mid rounds and if nothing else...light a fire under Smith and Grant to politely inform them....Guys, no job is safe and you want to get paid....you better play!!! For what we are paying Grant and the amount of weight he gained....he better watch out or he might get pushed over one slot into a DT/NT position on a permanent basis. He's not going anywhere now that he signed the big contract, so he'll be used where he can be most effective.
 
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i remember seeing grant as DT on a play or two this year and with a quicker DE who can pressure the QB we should be able to get creative and put different men on the line in different positions. i agree that we need to be specific and not just fill in the backup spots with so-so people.
 

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Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila Height: 6 ft 4 in (1.93 m) Weight: 247 lb (112 kg) College: San Diego State NFL Draft: 2000 / Round: 5 / Pick: 149

Alex Brown Height: 6 ft 3 in (1.91 m) Weight: 260 lb (118 kg) College: Florida
NFL Draft: 2002 / Round: 4 / Pick: 104

Robert Mathis Height: 6 ft 2 in (1.88 m) Weight: 245 lb (111 kg) College: Alabama A&M
NFL Draft: 2003 / Round: 5 / Pick: 138

Trent Cole Height: 6 ft 3 in (1.91 m) Weight: 270 lb (122 kg) College: Cincinnati
NFL Draft: 2005 / Round: 5 / Pick: 10

Elvis Dumervil Height: 5 ft 11 in (1.80 m) Weight: 260 lb (118 kg) College: Louisville
NFL Draft: 2006 / Round: 4 / Pick: 126

Mark Anderson Height: 6 ft 4 in (1.93 m) Weight: 255 lb (116 kg) College: Alabama
NFL Draft: 2006 / Round: 5 / Pick: 159

There is good history in drafting under sized 3rd down pass rush specialists in the 4th and 5th rounds. Jarvis Green and Jared Allen were drafted in the 4th round and Aaron Kampman in the 5th as well.

Bruce Davis Defensive End | Senior | UCLA Height: 6-3 | Weight: 242 | 40-Time: 4.62 12.5 sacks last season

"The senior was the heart and soul of the Bruins, a high-energy, fast-talking leader who had 15 1/2 tackles for loss, including 12 sacks. As one of the nation's premier speed rushers, Davis also forced two fumbles and broke up nine passes."

http://www.nfldraftdog.com/2008_nfl_draft/bruce_davis.htm

Might project as an OLB. Would be a great pickup regardless

Jameel McClain Defensive End | Senior | Syracuse Height: 6-1 | Weight: 256 | 40-Time: 4.75 9.5 sacks last season

Jameel McClain worked out with NFL star Dwight Freeney this summer. Now he wants to copy his success

Jameel McCLain plays for Syracuse, he is a talented pass rusher with the size and athletic ability to possible play outside linebacker in a 34 defense. He was moved to defensive end from linebacker in the spring of 2006 and he has been nothing short of sensational at that position ever since. He finished last season with 14.5 tackles for a loss and 9.5 sacks. McClain is a tad short at 6' 1" but at almost 260 pounds he has the beef.

http://media.www.dailyorange.com/media/storage/paper522/news/2006/10/18/Sports/Sack-Attack.End.Jameel.Mcclain.Leads.Su.In.Sacks.Despite.Switching.From.Lb-2373096.shtml

Bryan Smith Defensive End | Senior | McNeese St. Height: 6-3 | Weight: 230 | 40-Time: 4.68 10.5 sacks last season (30.5 in last 3 seasons), 22.5 tackles for a loss
 

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We need a pash rush, and our current DEs are not getting it done...so yes we need another DE either in the draft or FA. Or a new LB that can drop down and rush from the end on passing downs (like Groves from Auburn).

We also need to send Grant and Smith to Weight Watchers this off-season so maybe they can regain their form next year.
 

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Chris Long maybe :dunno:? I wouldn't be mad at all if we selected him w/ our first pick. Maybe drafting a beast DE like Long will light a fire under Grant and Smith's backsides and they actually do something instead of acting like they have everything under control when they don't.
 
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