Democratic Debate (Obama/Clinton): Political Theatre - Will you watch? What do you expect? (1 Viewer)

[Pure Energy]

I want a catfight. Meow.

Catfight--that's 2 women, no? Male cat versus female cat doesn't seem to fit that definition.

Perhaps a dogfight--Male dog versus female dog

 

[TPS]

I will not watch because I need to work on upper body tonight. :weightlifter316: But I hope Obama smashes her upside the head and gets her to crack a little. After watching Ed Schultz, the steak eating Liberal, on Hardball last night decrying the New York Chapter of N.O.W. (which incidentally got slapped down by the national organization) for attacking Ted Kennedy as a traitor, I just can't stomach any more Hillary. Look, I think Ted Kennedy is a big idiot even though his 1988 Where Was George? campaign was great. But to call him a traitor to women and their issues is preposterous. :17:

Here's the statement by NY N.O.W. (which I noticed got mentioned in another thread the other day, but I didn't see the transcript):

Women have just experienced the ultimate betrayal. Senator Kennedy’s endorsement of Hillary Clinton’s opponent in the Democratic presidential primary campaign has really hit women hard. Women have forgiven Kennedy, stuck up for him, stood by him, hushed the fact that he was late in his support of Title IX, the ERA, the Family Leave and Medical Act to name a few. Women have buried their anger that his support for the compromises in No Child Left Behind and the Medicare bogus drug benefit brought us the passage of these flawed bills. We have thanked him for his ardent support of many civil rights bills, BUT women are always waiting in the wings.

“And now the greatest betrayal! We are repaid with his abandonment! He’s picked the new guy over us. He’s joined the list of progressive white men who can’t or won’t handle the prospect of a woman president who is Hillary Clinton (they will of course say they support a woman president, just not “this” one). ‘They’ are Howard Dean and Jim Dean (Yup! That’s Howard’s brother) who run DFA (that’s the group and list from the Dean campaign that we women helped start and grow). They are Alternet, Progressive Democrats of America, democrats.com, Kucinich lovers and all the other groups that take women’s money, say they’ll do feminist and women’s rights issues one of these days, and conveniently forget to mention women and children when they talk about poverty or human needs or America’s future or whatever.

“This latest move by Kennedy, is so telling about the status of and respect for women’s rights, women’s voices, women’s equality, women’s authority and our ability – indeed, our obligation - to promote and earn and deserve and elect, unabashedly, a President that is the first woman after centuries of men who ‘know what’s best for us.’”

The National N.O.W. and the New York City Chapter have gone after the state chapter for this ridiculous attack on Senator Kennedy. Here are some of Hillary's supporters in NY State N.O.W. (with all due apologies to any lesbians on the forum):

 

[DadsDream]

I plan on re-fighting the conquests of Alexander the Great in Age of Empires on the computer with the sound turned down and the TV tuned in to the debate.

Either way, I foresee an evening of bloodshed on an epic scale.

 

[SoonerJim]

Catfight--that's 2 women, no? Male cat versus female cat doesn't seem to fit that definition.

Perhaps a dogfight--Male dog versus female dog

Hillary can neuter Obama with merely a steely glare, which was on full display last week. Every husband can recognize THE LOOK. :dunno:

 

[Richard]

If Obama would just reach over and slap her, he might earn my vote.

 

[Sabine]

I expect to see Clinton outperform Obama when forced to recall specifics/stats and shoot from the hip, but Obama will be more charismatic as usual.

Who will be moderating? Anyone know?

 

[cruize]

Everyone should watch their next President.

 

[Severum]

Who will be moderating? Anyone know?

Blitzer.

 

[Mr. Blue Sky]

So I guess this is The Official Gameday Thread for tehh debate?? So far I'm enjoying Obama's little opening soliloquy...

 

[Mr. Blue Sky]

I'm loving the civil tone tonight... so far.

 

[DMaestro]

Discussing universal health care. Obama wants to lower my premiums......hooray!

 

[Saint77]

This debate is useless without full contact body blows.

 

[DMaestro]

I'm loving the civil tone tonight... so far.

Ditto. Discussing substantive policy differences like grown-ups....what a novelty.

 

[DMaestro]

Obama's having a fine performance so far. Good dig at McCain. Why is there no gameday thread for this?

 

[cruize]

How anyone can favor a Republican over EITHER one of the Democratic candidates is beyond me.