Denmark introduces John Dillermand to kids TV (1 Viewer)

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Ya know, this is not how I imagined 2021 to start out. I know different countries around the world have various views on stuff like this, but who in the world thought this would be an okay idea?
 

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There is nothing remotely sexual in the story - it is more like a monkeys tail and covered by clothes all the time.. It is also very funny and popular. A few right wing pundits are complaining but we don't have the same reservations when it comes to how to treat the topic about how peoples bodies are different.

It is very common for people to be naked in public when they change into and out of Bathing suits straigth on the beach - Adults and children alike. And anatomy is taught early from 2nd grade and the first round of Sex education in 5th grade where basic things like why girls are getting breasts and periods and how reproduction works and stuff like that are on the agenda
 
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There is nothing remotely sexual in the story
"A man with a penis so massive & flexible"

Sure, there's nothing at all sexual about a man with a massive penis...

I'll wait for the cartoon about a woman with MASSIVE breast that saves children from drowning by using them as flotation devices. Oh, but wait, that would be sexual exploitation and sending the wrong message to young girls, right?
 

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"A man with a penis so massive & flexible"

Sure, there's nothing at all sexual about a man with a massive penis...

I'll wait for the cartoon about a woman with HUGE tits that saves people from drowning by using them as flotation devices.
well this is raising an interesting question
are all penises sexual all the time? is urinating a sexual act bc it involves a penis?
 
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well this is raising an interesting question
are all penises sexual all the time? is urinating a sexual act bc it involves a penis?
Just because you pee out of it doesn't make it non-sexual.

Denmark is their own country & if they're that ok with obvious displays of sexuality then that's their prerogative, but lets not pretend that a massive penis isn't a sexual object simply because it serves more than one purpose. Lets also not pretend that there isn't a huge (pardon the pun) double standard going on here.
 
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Just because you pee out of it doesn't make it non-sexual.

Denmark is their own country & if their that ok with obvious displays of sexuality then that's their prerogative, but lets not pretend that a massive penis isn't a sexual object simply because it serves more than one purpose. Lets also not pretend that there isn't a huge (pardon the pun) double standard going on here.
so 'yes' you're saying pensises are always sexual
men showering in a locker room is a de facto sexual experience?

(also, i'm not understanding the double standard - cultural double standard or biological or other?)

and please understand i'm genuinely curious - not calling you out, just finding this topic/conversation interesting
 
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so 'yes' you're saying pensises are always sexual
men showering in a locker room is a de facto sexual experience?
Actually, I had originally intended to reply with a simple "no," but then rephrased it. The response I ended up with still doesn't imply that it's a "de facto" anything. Simply because it has multiple functions doesn't make it a non-sexual object. That also doesn't mean that every single person is going to be attracted to it sexually. So, again no, showering with other guys is not necessarily a sexual experience although it may be for some.
(also, i'm not understanding the double standard - cultural double standard or biological or other?)
See my example of the cartoon woman with large breasts. I'm pretty certain that something like that would get plenty of feminist kickback. Why is it the woman with the large breasts or the man with the huge penis portrayed as the hero? What does that say to kids that don't have those attributes? These are the arguments that have been made for a very long time regarding sexual exploitation of women in media. Women's figures, looks, attractive physical attributes that make them the heroine. So now you have a guy who's a children's hero simply because he has a large penis. How is that any different?
and please understand i'm genuinely curious - not calling you out, just finding this topic/conversation interesting
I think you like to veil a want to challenge any conservative ideals with curiosity. I'm not offended by it, I just don't see it as simple curiosity.

Another interesting aspect to this: When I was a kid I used to like to pretend to be the heroes I saw portrayed in cartoons & movies. For example, pretending I was Captain America fighting injustice or Han Solo playing Star Wars etc. When we'd play we would pretend to have a shield or a blaster. How are children going to pretend to be Dirk Dillerman?
 

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Actually, I had originally intended to reply with a simple "no," but then rephrased it. The response I ended up with still doesn't imply that it's a "de facto" anything. Simply because it has multiple functions doesn't make it a non-sexual object. That also doesn't mean that every single person is going to be attracted to it sexually. So, again no, showering with other guys is not necessarily a sexual experience although it may be for some.
good honest answer and thank you - but your answer does imply that the situation had to be viewed in context to know if it's sexual or not - which seemed to be what Dragon implied and what you objected to

See my example of the cartoon woman with large breasts. I'm pretty certain that something like that would get plenty of feminist kickback. Why is it the woman with the large breasts or the man with the huge penis portrayed as the hero? What does that say to kids that don't have those attributes? These are the arguments that have been made for a very long time regarding sexual exploitation of women in media. Women's figures, looks, attractive physical attributes that make them the heroine. So now you have a guy who's a children's hero simply because he has a large penis. How is that any different?
without having done a meta-analysis - i would imagine that the difference is of exploitation
penis guy seems to be the hero of his story, whereas many of the 'breast' examples been reductionistic at best and usually exploitative

I think you like to veil a want to challenge any conservative ideals with curiosity. I'm not offended by it, I just don't see it as simple curiosity.
my training is to question everything, and to see if there is foundation behind assumptions - and it's something i do in class and ESPECIALLY to the left leaning kids - but i will grant that on this board i do tend to question the right leaning positions (i don't think there is currently a 'conservative' philosophy anymore except as a memory exercise from members like dtc or davexa), and it's because i have found the right leaning position is one usually taken 'on faith' and does not usually hold up to questioning
but i'm always interested in people pointing out the errors in my own thinking and conversations with right leaners would be where that could happen easiest

Another interesting aspect to this: When I was a kid I used to like to pretend to be the heroes I saw portrayed in cartoons & movies. For example, pretending I was Captain America fighting injustice or Han Solo playing Star Wars etc. When we'd play we would pretend to have a shield or a blaster. How are children going to pretend to be Dirk Dillerman?
part of this is totally understandable and part of this is an issue with traditional ways of consuming media
identifying oneself in the stories is only one way to consume - but as Dragon implies/stated one of the points of the story is about differences - we should be exposed to stories that aren't 'about us' so we can broaden our perspective and understand a world of differences much better
 

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Another interesting aspect to this: When I was a kid I used to like to pretend to be the heroes I saw portrayed in cartoons & movies. For example, pretending I was Captain America fighting injustice or Han Solo playing Star Wars etc. When we'd play we would pretend to have a shield or a blaster. How are children going to pretend to be Dirk Dillerman?
My wife brought this to my attention yesterday, and that's what I was thinking. I think my response to her was something like: while on the one hand I do understand the principle of making something not taboo by simply treating it like it isn't taboo, I also don't think I want our son running around going, "I'M JOHN DILLERMAND!"
 

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