Disagree with Bleacher Report (1 Viewer)

[Fleur de Lies]

He is very versatile, can run and he CAN ACTUALLY TACKLE.

But can he play safety?

 

[v3kt0r]

But can he play safety?

We might not have to ask this question ever again....

 

[tomdda]

I have watched kenny his entire collegiate career and they are very wron dude strait up ball he can make the most amazing catches he made landry look good cause he tended to over or under throw stills every time in their time togather i maybe only seen 10 on target throws but stills manages the obly knock was that still always looked for the sideline once he made the catch but i think that was just self preservation making sure he made it to the nfl im really excited about tgis pickup WHO DAT !!!!!! gonna lay it all on the line and order me a stills jersay ASAP

Allow punctuation to be your friend.

 

[bornnraisedwhodat]

Can you really watch highlights and say "Yeah that guy doesn't look like a 4.38 guy, more like a 4.5"? If so that's impressive.

Obviously you cant pinpoint the exact speed. But say you watch Lance Moore, you know he is not a guy with 4.3 speed on the field. You watch Mike Wallace and you know he aint running a 4.6 out there.

Just because you run a fast 40 doesn't mean it translates to the field. Its all about how fast you run routes, make short adjustment depending on coverage, and how you get out of your breaks.

Stills is not slow obviously, he just doesnt showcase what you would think you would see from a guy who runs a 4.3 on a track.

Maybe it was how his offense operated, who knows. But im sure he can still get behind a defense once he learns how to beat press and make smooth transitions.

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[satownsaint]

I don't think it has anything to do with speed, the kid is quick. What I heard Mayock say was he lacked physicality. Now that becomes an issue more for wide right/left WRs more so than slot because you have many teams that play press. You get a physical, strong corner who is decent to good at press, it screws the entire route up.

Here is why, all you tape watchers. Notice how much time the average QB has to make a decision and throw the ball. Most have no more than 3-4 seconds to make a play. Otherwise, they'll be on their butt with a 250-320 lb dude on top of them. Most analysts say Brees makes decisions even faster than that, which he tends to do.

But that isn't just Brees elite ability to find the open man that makes that happen so quickly. It has a TON to do with the offensive scheme that allows players to be open. But another important part is the ability of that player to GET OPEN. Now if Stills is fast but hasn't shined in physical battles, I can see where analysts may think he is better suited for the slot. In the slot you have a LB or a safety who most of the time, with not press because they will get burnt bad. (FYI - this is why many analysts like Vaccaro, he can press and play similar to a CB) When lined up against the #1 or #2 CB, you many times will get pressed, especially with blitz packages. If that stops or slows the pattern by 1-2 seconds, now Brees literally has 1, maybe 2 seconds to completely read the field and find a re-routed open WR.

If looking at that scenario from a statistics standpoint. It is much more likely the play does not go the way we would like. A WR must be able to get off the pressing CB almost instantly and into their route. Otherwise the play becomes improv and that is when bad things tend to happen.

 

[bornnraisedwhodat]

I don't think it has anything to do with speed, the kid is quick. What I heard Mayock say was he lacked physicality. Now that becomes an issue more for wide right/left WRs more so than slot because you have many teams that play press. You get a physical, strong corner who is decent to good at press, it screws the entire route up.

Here is why, all you tape watchers. Notice how much time the average QB has to make a decision and throw the ball. Most have no more than 3-4 seconds to make a play. Otherwise, they'll be on their butt with a 250-320 lb dude on top of them. Most analysts say Brees makes decisions even faster than that, which he tends to do.

But that isn't just Brees elite ability to find the open man that makes that happen so quickly. It has a TON to do with the offensive scheme that allows players to be open. But another important part is the ability of that player to GET OPEN. Now if Stills is fast but hasn't shined in physical battles, I can see where analysts may think he is better suited for the slot. In the slot you have a LB or a safety who most of the time, with not press because they will get burnt bad. (FYI - this is why many analysts like Vaccaro, he can press and play similar to a CB) When lined up against the #1 or #2 CB, you many times will get pressed, especially with blitz packages. If that stops or slows the pattern by 1-2 seconds, now Brees literally has 1, maybe 2 seconds to completely read the field and find a re-routed open WR.

If looking at that scenario from a statistics standpoint. It is much more likely the play does not go the way we would like. A WR must be able to get off the pressing CB almost instantly and into their route. Otherwise the play becomes improv and that is when bad things tend to happen.

Exactly satownsaint!!

Nobody is saying Stills is a slow poke. It's just he has to learn how to play the WR position. Watch Lance Moore run routes, that guy is amazing coming off his breaks. Stills will learn those things and then utilize his 4.3 speed to beat defenses down the seams. He's not a huge guy so he might not be able to win with physicality. He will have to use quickness and smarts like LMO does. The difference with him and Lance is if he gets behind you he can take it to the house.

 

[State Of Affairs]

When he was drafted, both Mayock and Charles Davies were talking about it. If someone got the tape of the draft there is a discussion about it.

What did they say?

 

[Bob's your uncle]

What did they say?

IIRC Charles Davis said he would be a great slot receiver if he could get better at it since he had played only on the outside in college. Mayock said he didn't believe that he could play the slot and would only be an outside receiver in the NFL.

 

[KingBarkus]

What did they say?

The gist was that Stills does not like to go over the middle and prefers the outside or fly routes. I think people see Stills as a slot guy but he is not thrilled with that position. If there is any staff in the NFL that can put a player in a position to best utilize his strengths, it is this one.