Do you think aliens in ufos have visited Earth? (And all things UFO) (2 Viewers)

[saintmdterps]

RE: time travel - anything we speculate about time travel, the age of the earth, etc - is done so within the confines and limitations of our minds.

WE assigned values to numbers. WE determined what constitutes a billion or whatever. So what seems like a long time to us could actually be instantaneous for E.T.s

Anyways, I refuse to believe we're the best this universe has to offer. That would be a bummer.

Maybe we're at the bottom of the totem pole, but too stupid to realize it.

Put a human baby on the floor and watch it try to ingest every single thing it can grasp with two fingers.

They have zero discernment for what's digestible.

Kittens be hopping off of sheet, doing Cirque de Soleil moves within a few weeks while our babies still be stuck on their backs, crying 'cause they pooped themselves in a major way.

Some science fiction writers have postulated that time travel is actually very simple, but aliens have been on earth preventing humans from discovering it so that we cannot infect the rest of the universe. Aliens don't want us spreading our **** throughout the galaxy. Given how humanity has conducted itself here on this planet, I have no trouble whatsoever believing this theory.

 

[Sailorsaint]

Some science fiction writers have postulated that time travel is actually very simple, but aliens have been on earth preventing humans from discovering it so that we cannot infect the rest of the universe. Aliens don't want us spreading our **** throughout the galaxy. Given how humanity has conducted itself here on this planet, I have not trouble whatsoever believing this theory.

I would go one further and say that we have technology that will allow us to travel to nearby stars, but are prevented from using it for those same reasons. Just like you wouldn't want all the chimps in the world to know how to drive and use atm cards.

 

[bigdaddysaints]

Absolutely no way. Did you see what people did with toilet paper during covid?

If they announce aliens, there will be no aluminum foil, Mt. Dew or Bud Light available for years.

 

[Sailorsaint]

 

[Optimus Prime]

Scientists have used probability simulations to come to an estimate on the number of alien civilizations that might exist in our Milky Way galaxy, and the number they've arrived at is pretty specific: 42,777, give or take a few hundred.

The value was calculated by researchers Wenjie Song and He Gao from the Department of Astronomy at Beijing Normal University in China, who used something called a Monte Carlo simulation —a mathematical technique used to estimate possible outcomes of an uncertain event—to come to their conclusion.

Scientists have attempted to calculate the number of alien civilizations that might exist in our galaxy before. Most notable among these was Frank Drake, the astronomer who lends his name to the Drake equation that attempts to do this using factors such as average rate of star formation, the fraction of stars with planetary systems, the fraction of such planets which could host life, and so on............

Their work yielded two main results: an optimistic one and a pessimistic one. In the optimistic situation, the researchers suggested the aforementioned 42,777 communicating extraterrestrial intelligent civilizations (CETIs) with an error margin of plus 267 and minus 369, and they would need to survive 2,000 years on average to communicate with us.

In the pessimistic situation, the researchers said there could be as few as 111 CETIS and that they would need to survive for almost 1 million years on average to communicate with us............

Milky Way Could Host Over 42,000 Alien Civilizations, Scientists Estimate

 

[Optimus Prime]

This seems awfully specific
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The Milky Way is home to millions of potentially habitable planets — and approximately four of them may harbor evil alien civilizations that would invade Earth if they could, new research posted to the preprint database arXiv suggests.

The new paper, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, poses a peculiar question: What are the odds that humans could one day contact a hostile alien civilization that's capable of invading our planet?

To answer this, sole study author Alberto Caballero — a doctoral student in conflict resolution at the University of Vigo in Spain — began by looking back at human history before looking out to the stars.

"This paper attempts to provide an estimation of the prevalence of hostile extraterrestrial civilizations through an extrapolation of the probability that we, as the human civilization, would attack or invade an inhabited exoplanet," Caballero wrote in the study.

(Caballero is not an astrophysicist, but he has published a study on the infamous Wow! signal — a potential sign of extraterrestrial life — in the peer-reviewed International Journal of Astrobiology.)

To reach his estimation, Caballero first counted the number of countries that invaded other countries between 1915 and 2022. He found that a total of 51 of the world's 195 nations had launched some sort of invasion during that period. (The U.S. sat at the top of the list, with 14 invasions tallied in that time.) Then, he weighted each country's probability of launching an invasion based on that country's percentage of the global military expenditure. (Again, the U.S. came top with 38% of global military spending.)

From there, Caballero added each country's individual probability of instigating an invasion, then divided the sum by the total number of countries on Earth, ending up with what he describes as "the current human probability of invasion of an extraterrestrial civilization."

According to this model, the current odds of humans invading another inhabited planet are 0.028%. However, Caballero wrote, that probability refers to the current state of human civilization — and humans aren't currently capable of interstellar travel. If current rates of technological advancement hold, then interstellar travel wouldn't be possible for another 259 years, Caballero calculated using the Kardashev scale — a system that categorizes how advanced a civilization is based on its energy expenditure.

Assuming the frequency of human invasions continues to decline over that time at the same rate that invasions have declined over the last 50 years (an average of minus 1.15% per year, according to Caballero's paper), then the human race has a 0.0014% probability of invading another planet when we potentially become an interstellar , or Type 1, civilization 259 years from now.

That may sound like very slim odds — and it is, until you start multiplying it by the millions of potentially habitable planets in the Milky Way. For his final calculation, Caballero turned to a 2012 paper published in the journal Mathematical SETI, in which researchers predicted that as many as 15,785 alien civilizations could theoretically share the galaxy with humans.

Caballero concluded that less than one of the Type 1 civilizations — 0.22, to be precise — would be hostile toward humans who make contact. However, the number of malicious neighbors increases to 4.42 when accounting for civilizations that, like modern humans, are not yet capable of interstellar travel, Caballero told Vice News..............

MSN

 

[Sailorsaint]

This seems awfully specific
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The Milky Way is home to millions of potentially habitable planets — and approximately four of them may harbor evil alien civilizations that would invade Earth if they could, new research posted to the preprint database arXiv suggests.

The new paper, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, poses a peculiar question: What are the odds that humans could one day contact a hostile alien civilization that's capable of invading our planet?

To answer this, sole study author Alberto Caballero — a doctoral student in conflict resolution at the University of Vigo in Spain — began by looking back at human history before looking out to the stars.

"This paper attempts to provide an estimation of the prevalence of hostile extraterrestrial civilizations through an extrapolation of the probability that we, as the human civilization, would attack or invade an inhabited exoplanet," Caballero wrote in the study.

(Caballero is not an astrophysicist, but he has published a study on the infamous Wow! signal — a potential sign of extraterrestrial life — in the peer-reviewed International Journal of Astrobiology.)

To reach his estimation, Caballero first counted the number of countries that invaded other countries between 1915 and 2022. He found that a total of 51 of the world's 195 nations had launched some sort of invasion during that period. (The U.S. sat at the top of the list, with 14 invasions tallied in that time.) Then, he weighted each country's probability of launching an invasion based on that country's percentage of the global military expenditure. (Again, the U.S. came top with 38% of global military spending.)

From there, Caballero added each country's individual probability of instigating an invasion, then divided the sum by the total number of countries on Earth, ending up with what he describes as "the current human probability of invasion of an extraterrestrial civilization."

According to this model, the current odds of humans invading another inhabited planet are 0.028%. However, Caballero wrote, that probability refers to the current state of human civilization — and humans aren't currently capable of interstellar travel. If current rates of technological advancement hold, then interstellar travel wouldn't be possible for another 259 years, Caballero calculated using the Kardashev scale — a system that categorizes how advanced a civilization is based on its energy expenditure.

Assuming the frequency of human invasions continues to decline over that time at the same rate that invasions have declined over the last 50 years (an average of minus 1.15% per year, according to Caballero's paper), then the human race has a 0.0014% probability of invading another planet when we potentially become an interstellar , or Type 1, civilization 259 years from now.

That may sound like very slim odds — and it is, until you start multiplying it by the millions of potentially habitable planets in the Milky Way. For his final calculation, Caballero turned to a 2012 paper published in the journal Mathematical SETI, in which researchers predicted that as many as 15,785 alien civilizations could theoretically share the galaxy with humans.

Caballero concluded that less than one of the Type 1 civilizations — 0.22, to be precise — would be hostile toward humans who make contact. However, the number of malicious neighbors increases to 4.42 when accounting for civilizations that, like modern humans, are not yet capable of interstellar travel, Caballero told Vice News..............

MSN

I have no doubt that we are potentially the most dangerous species in the galaxy, all things being equal.

 

[kizzy821]

If we could, we'd invade the entire universe, tagging and poking sheet. Killing it in the name of "research." Humans are beyond repulsive and repugnant and vile.

I can't wait until the planet has had enough of our arses. One good zap or shake. One decent-sized space rock and our useless butts are cooked.

How does our existence benefit the planet? We're forking parasites. Weaklings. What other species needs their drinking water to be processed before they can safely ingest it.

Humans: a blight in history.

 

[Sailorsaint]

Definitely NSFW.....

 

[Sailorsaint]

4,000-year-old rock was seemingly cut with a laser, so who did it?

 

[mjcouvi]

The experts weighing in...

One user on the social media speculated that the divide was created when an alien messed up “with a super laser pointer on some random planet their species found and accidentally cut a rock in half’.

 

[WhoDatPhan78]

NIM-Aviation Homepage

They have a new patch.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Nasa will launch a nine month UFO study program on Monday, and the space agency just announced the 16-person team that will research the mysterious unidentified aerial phenomena.

In June, Nasa first announced the UFO program and noted that the research would focus on unclassified UFO reports and data.

They also shared that the independent study group would be chaired by astrophysicist and president of the nonprofit science organization the Simons Foundation, David Spergel.

Joining Spergel will be 15 other team members announced by Nasa on Friday, including former Nasa astronaut Scott Kelly, University of California astrophysicist Shelley Wright, science journalist Nadia Drake, planetary scientist David Grinspoon, and the chief technology officer of Colorado-based space company Maxar, Walter Scott.

Other members of the team include scientists, Federal Aviation Administration regulators and space industry experts.

“NASA has brought together some of the world’s leading scientists, data and artificial intelligence practitioners, aerospace safety experts, all with a specific charge, which is to tell us how to apply the full focus of science and data to UAP,” Daniel Evans, the assistant deputy associate administrator for research at NASA’s Science Mission Directorate, said in a statement…….

Nasa selects UFO research team members for nine-month study

Nasa’s UFO research program will launch on Monday

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Optimus Prime]

The distances are unimaginably large.

The Fermi paradox is a philosophical argument that, briefly, observes that the chance for extraterrestrial life is slight, due to the fact that if there are other things out there, then they probably should have visited here already.

Our solar system is relatively young compared to the age of the rest of the universe, giving other civilizations plenty of time to arise, develop faster-than-light travel, and come visit. So where are they?

For this space program communications expert, she thinks they just don’t have any idea we’re here.........

Space Industry Expert Shares Why She Doesn't Think Aliens Have Been To Earth

The distances are unimaginably large.

exemplore.com

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[Optimus Prime]

Scientists have established a new research “hub” dedicated to preparing for the discovery of alien life, an event that would finally answer the age-old question of whether we are alone in the universe.

While it’s not clear that we will ever find life beyond Earth, or that aliens exist at all, the consequences of finding extraterrestrials would have immense and dizzying implications for humanity no matter what form it might take.

The search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI)—along with the broader quest to find even simple forms of life, like bacteria—has become extremely sophisticated, raising the odds that we might actually stumble across evidence of aliens in the coming decades, assuming it is really out there.

John Elliott, who serves as honorary research fellow in the School of Computer Science of the University of St Andrews in Scotland, has been thinking about the potential ramifications of an alien detection for decades.

During his long involvement with the SETI Permanent Committee, a group of SETI experts established by the International Academy of Astronautics (IAA), he has developed approaches for deciphering extraterrestrial messages and gamed out how to disseminate information about a confirmed extraterrestrial detection to a global audience.

Now, Elliott has founded the SETI Post-Detection Hub, hosted by the University of St Andrews’ Centre for Exoplanet Science and the Centre for Global Law and Governance, to bring together diverse experts and anticipate the joys and tribulations of a post-detection world.

“It was increasingly evident that we needed a center (home) to coordinate our efforts for an integrated provision to deal with such an event,” Elliott told Motherboard in an email. “So, with the encouragement of colleagues, I took the initiative and began developing the hub, to where it is now.”

“This has been with the assistance of a few colleagues in the UK SETI Network (UKSRN), to formulate a draft strategic plan and supporting documents,” he added, noting that the hub is now officially active.

The establishment of the center is one of many signs that the existing protocols addressing extraterrestrial detections are likely to come into sharper focus in the near future.

The SETI Permanent Committee adopted a basic game plan for this event in 1989, but many researchers think these guidelines haven’t kept pace with rapid advances in the media landscape and in the search for extraterrestrial life itself.

Two teams of researchers have also recently debated the wisdom of preparing for security risks to SETI researchers and astronomical facilities, including terrorist attacks or espionage...........

Scientists Have Founded a ‘Post-Detection Hub’ to Prepare for Alien Contact

“There will be denial/conspiracy advocates, as is the case for many events in history,” the organization's founder says.

www.vice.com