Does Our Offense Hurt Our Defense Statistically? I think so... (1 Viewer)

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I am trying to have this discussion with some Bills fans, but I suspect they, like most fans and media, are going to ignore facts to hang onto the hope that our defense is as bad as they were in the past and make that judgement based on the stats of the first couple of games.

I have to agree with people who say that this defense will not finish in the top 10 statistically and will probably finish in the teens/early twenties, but not because of talent or scheme. I think our offense is our defense's biggest enemy.

When you look at traditional power house defenses, they tend to control the ball/clock and limit the other teams opportunities. Our offense is built to score. We score consistently and often. Now that is great because most teams can not keep up with our offense, but it also give opponents offenses a lot of possessions. Against Philly we forced 5 punts and 3 turnovers and they still had enough positions to score 20 points. That is 12 possessions. One of which was created from a turnover. If you give other teams 12 positions, they are going to get stats. However, we have been very good at stopping teams for scoring even with bad field position.

In other words you have to look beyond the stats to gage our defense's performance. Most opposing teams fans and media do a quick glance and make judgments. Heck a lot of our fans do the same. I am not saying we have top 10 talent on our defense, but I do think we are playing as well as the top ten statistic defenses in the league, but our stats will appear contradictory to those stats.

In summary:
1) Offense gets points, but gives other teams possessions.
2) Power house defenses generally benefit from clock controlling offenses
3) I am not sure we will be a statistically top 10 defense, but I think we are playing like one.
 

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I think our offense is our defense's biggest enemy.

Really? I've never heard GW say that. Our offense puts opposing teams into catch-up mode. Takes away the control game and forces them into taking more chances. We have a lot of turnovers so far 2 games in and that is in part due to the offense. Can't see them as the enemy. It makes opposing offenses one dimensional, which is a friendly act not a hostile one.Who cares about yards, I'll take the turnovers any day!
 

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Yes as far as STATS, No as far as position. we have been so far ahead in the 4th quarter that we go to a prevent defense and a no pass 3 and out offense which results in a lot of garbage yards.
 
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Really? I've never heard GW say that. Our offense puts opposing teams into catch-up mode. Takes away the control game and forces them into taking more chances. We have a lot of turnovers so far 2 games in and that is in part due to the offense. Can't see them as the enemy. It makes opposing offenses one dimensional, which is a friendly act not a hostile one.Who cares about yards, I'll take the turnovers any day!

We are not in disagreement. I used the word statistically about 5 times in the post including the title. I guess should have said it again at the end of that line. Regardless the summary at the end should clarify the point.
 

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I actually think you make a good point. O puts up tons of points early and D makes a bunch of stops early. O goes up by a lot. D plays in prevent for remainder of the game.
 

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Stats don't win games - beating the opposing team by 20+ points wins games.

I think opposing teams would prefer yardage over being shut down offensively and having even more points scored against them. It may not look pretty, but the alternative looks worse.
 

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I think rugger makes a good point; almost like, "hey Drew & co., we appreciate the domination, but can you slow it down just a little bit..." :hihi:
Another way to look at it - our D & rushing attack are still improving, and as they do so, the stats may improve as well. There may be games like the one in the Meadowlands against the Giants in 2006 - remember, they never made it past their 50 yard line outside of that long TD to Burress? I believe we controlled the clock with some good rushing by #26 & #25, and kept their O off-balance.
Sometimes, I do feel like our D may not have time to rest because we'll score in the blink of an eye, ex. 4 plays, 74 yard drive, TD, 1 play, 82 yard drive TD - Henderson, etc. But, what do you do? Keep on scoring, no doubt. Further, when our O forces their O to become one dimensional, all they can really do is pass and hope for the best. As the weeks go on, I expect more sacks and turnovers because of this.
 

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Maybe we are taking away their run, forcing them to be one dimensional where they do a lot of passes (big yards) but end up giving up too many interceptions (no points).
 

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