Draft Daddy 'Insider" notes (1 Viewer)

workhorse

No White Flags!
VIP Contributor
Joined
Aug 27, 2006
Messages
5,318
Reaction score
1,880
Location
Keller, TX
Offline
From the "take it for what it's worth" department. Who knows, it may even be from Bongo.

Interesting notes to me is that he picks Mayo as the first LB taken, not Rivers, Jets may take Alberts at 6, and that the Saints and the Bengals love Ellis but won't trade up.

Draft Daddy: Blog : 2008 NFL Draft News as it Breaks: Updated Regularly

Our "inside source" from the Combine, who everybody loved, is back and he's got some more pre-draft opinions and insider tidbits:

Strength's of the upcoming draft:

1. Offensive line, specifically offensive tackle, is the best in the last 30 years. Every scout I talk to says this is the case. G.M.'s also love this group.

2. This draft reminds the old timers of the 1970's for running backs. The group isn't as talented as the offensive lineman, but this draft for running backs is the best we have seen in several decades. There will be very good backs found all the way to round 5.

3. There are some elite cornerback talent in this draft, but there is also depth in this draft for cornerback.

After these three spots the draft is weak, particularly at quarterback and wide receiver.

Random Notes & Opinions from our insider:

East Carolina running back Chris Johnson has been given a first round grade by over half the franchises in the N.F.L.....Eastern Kentucky cornerback Antwaun Molden is now in round one on a few teams' boards....Arkansas' Felix Jones is going to make a name on special teams before he does anything as a running back, according to my sources....Few are saying this publicly, but many N.F.L. teams love Chad Henne and think he's the best quarterback in this draft.

While many think taking Branden Albert in the top 10 is crazy, I know 50 percent of scouts think he can play left tackle and make an impact there in the N.F.L. Also, a key N.F.C. executive recently told me if Steve Hutchinson and Leonard Davis can be paid $50 million to play offensive guard, then taking a prospect like Albert in the top ten makes sense for teams that need an immediate line boost....Some think the New York Jets way overpaid for Alan Faneca and they still need to shore up the middle and offensive tackle, so drafting Albert at #6 overall could solve all their offensive line needs.

I'd draft Tennessee's Jerrod Mayo before any linebacker. I think he is the next Al Wilson or Ray Lewis and he can play either scheme. But he'd probably be best suited to a 4-3 team. I, personally, see him in Cincinnati or Buffalo, if there guys don't fall to them.

Solid inside linebackers for the 3-4 can be gotten in the latter rounds. Curtis Lofton and Beau Bell can fit that bill. Keith Rivers is not a new Keith Bulluck. Bulluck is the best 4-3 outside linebacker in the league and he went at 30 back in 2000. I think Rivers is media hyped. His game film is pretty ordinary. I love Cliff Avril and Stanford Keglar of Purdue more than Rivers as far as 3-4 outside linebackers.

Word in N.F.L. circles is the Oakland Raiders will take Darren McFadden at #4 overall. New Orleans and Cincinnati both covet Sedrick Ellis, but neither will pay the price to move up in the draft to get him because they know the New York Jets will never really take him due to their scheme and the Dwyane Robertson failure.

These are but a few of the things scouts with teams stacking their boards have said. Also, many scouts believe this draft is at its best from 31-65. That is what has many teams excited.
 

Saint Droopy

Born/Raised in Hollygrove
Gold VIP Contributor
Joined
May 29, 2006
Messages
26,583
Reaction score
19,216
Location
Reppin' N.O. here in DFW
Offline
I can see Mayo going 1st... he was more productive in a tougher conference and didn't get all of the hype that Rivers and the rest of the USC guys get.

I don't like the idea of trading up... simply because we have so many holes to fill... we still need a CB, FS, OLB, and DT, and you don't fill holes by giving picks away for one guy.
 

cdogg

THE WOOD WAS BROUGHT
VIP Contributor
Joined
Aug 22, 1997
Messages
23,805
Reaction score
12,388
Location
Ft. Collins, CO
Offline
Would love Mayo, but 10 is too high, and he won't be there in the 2nd. Dream scenario would be trade back with Philly for Sheppard and draft Mayo. We get our CB and impact LB. Then BPA in 2nd, or trade it for Shockey.
 

bobad

Son of Adam
VIP Contributor
Joined
Sep 21, 2006
Messages
25,141
Reaction score
17,955
Location
Saints Country
Offline
Would love Mayo, but 10 is too high, and he won't be there in the 2nd. Dream scenario would be trade back with Philly for Sheppard and draft Mayo. We get our CB and impact LB. Then BPA in 2nd, or trade it for Shockey.


I agree with DD's assessment of Mayo, Rivers, and Albert. Albert is not as polished, but his upside may be right there with Jake Long. I also like Curtis Lofton. I think he has been under rated, but seems to be rising a bit lately.

I would hate to see the Saints give up any draft picks because there will be so many great players in rounds 2-5.
 

rstrauss33

ALL-MADDEN TEAM
VIP Contributor
Joined
Oct 2, 2006
Messages
2,459
Reaction score
107
Location
Hoboken, NJ (formerly NO)
Offline
The depth in later rounds is why I'm gun shy about moving up. I certainly don't want to give up our 2nd round pick. I wouldn't mind moving down a bit in the 2nd if a guy we really want isn't there.
 

98greenGT

ALL-MADDEN TEAM
Joined
Apr 29, 2002
Messages
2,365
Reaction score
959
Age
45
Location
Westbank
Offline
From the "take it for what it's worth" department. Who knows, it may even be from Bongo.

Interesting notes to me is that he picks Mayo as the first LB taken, not Rivers, Jets may take Alberts at 6, and that the Saints and the Bengals love Ellis but won't trade up.

Draft Daddy: Blog : 2008 NFL Draft News as it Breaks: Updated Regularly

Our "inside source" from the Combine, who everybody loved, is back and he's got some more pre-draft opinions and insider tidbits:

Strength's of the upcoming draft:

1. Offensive line, specifically offensive tackle, is the best in the last 30 years. Every scout I talk to says this is the case. G.M.'s also love this group.

2. This draft reminds the old timers of the 1970's for running backs. The group isn't as talented as the offensive lineman, but this draft for running backs is the best we have seen in several decades. There will be very good backs found all the way to round 5.

3. There are some elite cornerback talent in this draft, but there is also depth in this draft for cornerback.

After these three spots the draft is weak, particularly at quarterback and wide receiver.

Random Notes & Opinions from our insider:

East Carolina running back Chris Johnson has been given a first round grade by over half the franchises in the N.F.L.....Eastern Kentucky cornerback Antwaun Molden is now in round one on a few teams' boards....Arkansas' Felix Jones is going to make a name on special teams before he does anything as a running back, according to my sources....Few are saying this publicly, but many N.F.L. teams love Chad Henne and think he's the best quarterback in this draft.

While many think taking Branden Albert in the top 10 is crazy, I know 50 percent of scouts think he can play left tackle and make an impact there in the N.F.L. Also, a key N.F.C. executive recently told me if Steve Hutchinson and Leonard Davis can be paid $50 million to play offensive guard, then taking a prospect like Albert in the top ten makes sense for teams that need an immediate line boost....Some think the New York Jets way overpaid for Alan Faneca and they still need to shore up the middle and offensive tackle, so drafting Albert at #6 overall could solve all their offensive line needs.

I'd draft Tennessee's Jerrod Mayo before any linebacker. I think he is the next Al Wilson or Ray Lewis and he can play either scheme. But he'd probably be best suited to a 4-3 team. I, personally, see him in Cincinnati or Buffalo, if there guys don't fall to them.

Solid inside linebackers for the 3-4 can be gotten in the latter rounds. Curtis Lofton and Beau Bell can fit that bill. Keith Rivers is not a new Keith Bulluck. Bulluck is the best 4-3 outside linebacker in the league and he went at 30 back in 2000. I think Rivers is media hyped. His game film is pretty ordinary. I love Cliff Avril and Stanford Keglar of Purdue more than Rivers as far as 3-4 outside linebackers.

Word in N.F.L. circles is the Oakland Raiders will take Darren McFadden at #4 overall. New Orleans and Cincinnati both covet Sedrick Ellis, but neither will pay the price to move up in the draft to get him because they know the New York Jets will never really take him due to their scheme and the Dwyane Robertson failure.

These are but a few of the things scouts with teams stacking their boards have said. Also, many scouts believe this draft is at its best from 31-65. That is what has many teams excited.


I have to say, i agree with just about everything. Specially the Chad Henne part.
 
OP
workhorse

workhorse

No White Flags!
VIP Contributor
Joined
Aug 27, 2006
Messages
5,318
Reaction score
1,880
Location
Keller, TX
Offline
The dream scenario for me would be to trade back twice, picking up 2 more 2nd round picks, or a 2nd and a 3rd and fill all our needs: late 1st LB Mayo, 2nd DT Trevor Laws, 2nd CB Antoine Cason, and late 2nd/3rd S Thomas Decoud.
 
Last edited:

abyss3

Guest
Joined
Sep 10, 2001
Messages
1,055
Reaction score
1
Age
118
Offline
That's a really nice piece. It really shows the problem with taking a LB at #10. Rivers doesn't have the sheer numbers in total tackles to warrant that pick and the FO would never have the nads to take MAYO or even Connor over Rivers. There are tweener LB that grade out well at the combine every year. But it's the "tackling machine" guy who is gonna do well in the pros.

Normally to even talk about taking a LB in the top 10 he needs to be special. Nobody is even close to saying Rivers = R Jackson.

I'm sure Loomis is trying to put a deal in place to jump in front of Cincy. EVERY YEAR it seems "somebody" falls. You know but in all likelyhood if we end up picking at 10, CB will be where the value is.

Personally, a few years from now, Mayo will be viewed as the better player.




ps - forgive me pookie.
 
Last edited:

CargoJon

Banned
Joined
Dec 29, 2006
Messages
7,308
Reaction score
2
Location
York, PA
Offline
At least somebody agrees with my that Rivers is way over-hyped....
 

Brock Meaux

I'm Batman
Staff member
Super Moderator
Joined
Aug 14, 2001
Messages
9,845
Reaction score
7,364
Age
37
Location
Abbeville, LA
Offline
Normally to even talk about taking a LB in the top 10 he needs to be special. Nobody is even close to saying Rivers = R Jackson.

You know but in all likelyhood if we end up picking at 10, CB will be where the value is.

That's kind of the point, I think. Cornerback is very deep and the guy you get in the 2nd or 3rd is just as likely to be a star as the guy you'd get at 10, so there is no value in picking a CB at 10. Linebacker, on the other hand, is NOT deep, so the value is in getting a good one early, even if it's reaching by a spot or two (which, 10 isn't much of a reach at all for Rivers because Denver is said to want him in the worst way and they're right behind us). He may not be Rickey Jackson, but Rivers will be a good starter. DRC could either be Deion Sanders or Alex Molden. If I'm paying a guy top 10 money, I'd rather know that, at worst, he won't be a weakness on my team. Save the gambles on upside for rounds 2-7.
 

meily

More than 15K posts served!
VIP Contributor
Joined
Mar 4, 2003
Messages
25,544
Reaction score
11,095
Location
Ann Arbor Michigan
Offline
I think that could be one of the surprise draft picks, Bengals taking Mayo at 9 (if they Dorsey and Ellis are gone) or just take him at #9 because they like him that much...Its gonna be an interesting draft, there is loads of talent this year its gonna be excited watching who all 32 teams pick.
 

T-Man14

Guest
Joined
Aug 6, 2003
Messages
2,011
Reaction score
3
Age
50
Offline
I think Mayo's "Off the field " concerns or "character issues" keep him from going that early. He also has had some knee injuries. As far as on the field performance he is a tackling machine. The closest thing to Patrick Willis in this draft.
 

TideSaint

All-Pro
Joined
May 19, 2007
Messages
1,139
Reaction score
15
Location
columbus,ms
Offline
I think Mayo's "Off the field " concerns or "character issues" keep him from going that early. He also has had some knee injuries. As far as on the field performance he is a tackling machine. The closest thing to Patrick Willis in this draft.


Prepare to be bombarded with people asking for a link regarding Mayo's issues. He seems to have jumped ahead of DRC as the "popular player" on this board. Just warning you because you probably irked a bunch of people with that statement.
 
OP
workhorse

workhorse

No White Flags!
VIP Contributor
Joined
Aug 27, 2006
Messages
5,318
Reaction score
1,880
Location
Keller, TX
Offline
I think Mayo's "Off the field " concerns or "character issues" keep him from going that early. He also has had some knee injuries. As far as on the field performance he is a tackling machine. The closest thing to Patrick Willis in this draft.


what off the field concerns?
 
Joined
Oct 6, 2006
Messages
598
Reaction score
1
Age
38
Location
The Woodlands Texas via Albany Louisiana
Offline
what off the field concerns?

I googled it and saw this from his freshman year

Redshirt freshman Jarod Mayo is grateful to Tennesee coach Phillip Fulmer for standing by him during his arrest on assault charges this spring. Mayo was one of five Vols arrested for assualt during the off-season. All the charges against Mayo were dropped last week when a key witness for the prosecution failed to appear in court to testify.

Mayo has expressed his thanks to Fulmer and tells The Tennessean's Chris Lowe that is ready to show his gratitude in his play on the field.
In what is quickly becoming a recurring theme this off-season, the University of Tennessee has had two off-the-field court cases involving players resolved. Jerod Mayo and Robert Ayers resolved their court cases yesterday and will be reinstated to the team.

Both players were accused of hitting UT student Shadiyah Murphy in a fight that broke out in March between football players and members of the Alpha Phi Psi fraternity. Murphy's jaw was broken in the fight, according to reports in this morning's Tennessean.

The charges against Mayo, a redshirt freshman were dropped when former UT player and witness for the prosectution Thomas Stallwroth failed to appear in court. Mayo was accused of a felony aggravated assult. Ayers pleaded guilty to a lesser charge in the incident and will have pay court costs and restitution to the victim that will not exceed $3000. Should Ayers satisfy these requirements, the charge will be erased from his record, assuming he avoids further run-ins with he law.
 
Last edited:

Create an account or login to comment

You must be a member in order to leave a comment

Create account

Create an account on our community. It's easy!

Log in

Already have an account? Log in here.

Users who are viewing this thread

 

New Orleans Saints Twitter Feed

 

Headlines

Top Bottom