Drew Brees Rumor Up Here in Mpls - He's not the same (2 Viewers)

VikesFan2017

Veteran Starter
VIP Contributor
Joined
Jan 8, 2018
Messages
778
Reaction score
1,581
Offline
Sticky Post
Don't kill the messenger on this one, but just wanted to inquire and share if anyone heard this rumor.

Up here a couple of our radio heads are not picking the Saints to win the division because they had heard an inside scoop that Brees was hit bad in the last Atlanta game, and after watching him, he hasn't been the same, and they don't think he will be the same.

I don't know the hit, but looking at his game logs, he still had some good games including against Pittsburgh.

Has this rumor been flushed out already?
Anyone else hear it?
 

St. PJ

Super Forum Fanatic
Joined
Jun 6, 2006
Messages
8,203
Reaction score
6,919
Location
Lafayette, La
Offline
Don't kill the messenger on this one, but just wanted to inquire and share if anyone heard this rumor.

Up here a couple of our radio heads are not picking the Saints to win the division because they had heard an inside scoop that Brees was hit bad in the last Atlanta game, and after watching him, he hasn't been the same, and they don't think he will be the same.

I don't know the hit, but looking at his game logs, he still had some good games including against Pittsburgh.

Has this rumor been flushed out already?
Anyone else hear it?
What I heard was that in the second Falcons game Drew sustained an injury while making a tackle on an interception that was similar to the torn oblique he had some years back... a soft tissue injury that affected his ability to really put torque on it or throw very deep. That, along with the injuries to the offensive line and no reliable WR other than MT, resulted in both Drew and the offense looking "off" for the remainder of the season. The nature of the injury was not made public, nor used as an excuse, but it has long since healed and may have been healed by the time playoffs started. Like the tear in the oblique, it didn't "leak out" until the off-season.

QB's might fall off a cliff from one year to the next, but you don't see that "cliff" occur all at once at the end of November after dominating every prior game. That's a pretty good indication of an injury, and being that he was still like 75% vintage Drew, that indicates a soft tissue injury and not something structural. The next game was the Cowboys game, and the offense took a nosedive starting there.

You will see Monday that Drew has healed and you radio guys took a shred of truth and ran with it.
 

insidejob

Respect existence or expect resistance.
Approved Blogger
Joined
Feb 3, 2010
Messages
27,894
Reaction score
45,231
Location
70005
Online
That is the dumbest rumor I've ever heard. He's been throwing lasers all through camp and in his one preseason drive. Sounds like desperate jealousy to me since y'all paid Cousins a fully guaranteed $85MM or whatever and he isn't half the QB Drew is.

Sorry, you earned the clown faces just for even posting that trash here.
 

SaintPancake

Veteran Starter
Joined
Oct 16, 2015
Messages
807
Reaction score
1,245
Offline
Behind that Minnesota Nice exterior I am sure those radio hosts are still mad about the 09 playoffs and are looking for any reason for the Saints to fail this year.
 

Kyle brister

VIP Contributor
Joined
Jan 23, 2019
Messages
947
Reaction score
1,386
Age
54
Location
Lafayette
Online
I am a transplant from NOLA up here in Lino Lakes, MN.... This, this, this!!! I can't tell you how many times I've said this to friends of mine that are Vikings fans.... If they would have kept Keenum, it's absolutely certain that there fortunes would be way different( he balled out in that season he played with them and the players rallied around him!!!!).. Kirk Cousins is a me first player that is way overrated(and chokes in big games:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:).. Trust me when I say, the locals are extremely jealous and bitter about that playoff loss in '10.. Butthurt would be the proper expression.. They hate Sean Payton with extreme fervor:cool:(y)... They are extremely jealous that we have Brees;):100:.. Whodat for life!!!
Pity you big chief. it must be hard to get good food up there. And the cold.🐧
Get back home & git you some gumbo & etouffe.
 
OP
OP
VikesFan2017

VikesFan2017

Veteran Starter
VIP Contributor
Joined
Jan 8, 2018
Messages
778
Reaction score
1,581
Offline
Just take care of the failconns & we will do the rest. By the way, it doesn't look like your guys will have a hard time this season.
One of said Radio-heads picked the Falcons over the Vikings this weekend. I'm not sold on our Vikes this year. I'm afraid 7-9 might be likely. Although Thursday night's game gave me a bit of hope.



I heard some guys talking on the radio about how Kirk Cousins chokes in big games. However, I don't know much about the guy. Last time I watched him play was in the Dome when he played for the Redskins and he let the Saints come back and beat his team at the end. It broke the heart of some Skins fans sitting close to me. Pretty sad scene for them. Y'all should have kept that Keenum guy who was capable of beating the Saints in the last seconds of a game.

What's the word in Minny? Should y'all have kept Keenum?
No one is arguing at this point we should have kept Keenum. Those who are anti-Cousins, (and there's a good number) don't really have a logical solution to what we should have done. (some say Teddy, but those are mostly Teddy-heads). A good number of people up here really love Teddy.


They are regurgitating a rumor that sprung up at the end of last season.

When the Saints offense lagged some at the end of 2018, a few of the shock sports jocks floated that rumor (Drew injured in Atl game) without a real understanding of our team. Reality is that injuries to our OL caused a significant disruption to our offense. When our OL came back together, so did our offense. Look at the playoff games to see the resulting improvement. And Drew, even under those circumstances, was still far better than most starting QBs in the NFL. Just look at his completion %.

So, no truth to that rumor. Those guys are suffering from wishful thinking.
Thanks for this. This gives some detail as to where the rumor started. I think his advancing age would generally be the likely reason for any loss of production but he's been a precise passer and as efficient as they come. I like Drew a lot. Total class guy. One of the best.
 

Saint Spud

Hall-of-Famer
Joined
Mar 6, 2002
Messages
4,776
Reaction score
6,607
Age
39
Online
One of said Radio-heads picked the Falcons over the Vikings this weekend. I'm not sold on our Vikes this year. I'm afraid 7-9 might be likely. Although Thursday night's game gave me a bit of hope.





No one is arguing at this point we should have kept Keenum. Those who are anti-Cousins, (and there's a good number) don't really have a logical solution to what we should have done. (some say Teddy, but those are mostly Teddy-heads). A good number of people up here really love Teddy.




Thanks for this. This gives some detail as to where the rumor started. I think his advancing age would generally be the likely reason for any loss of production but he's been a precise passer and as efficient as they come. I like Drew a lot. Total class guy. One of the best.
I think the "loss of production" is just as much a factor of Payton turning more to the run game and the team playing with a lead.

It may be a chicken/egg scenario, but Payton has focused a lot more on efficiency and controlling the clock in recent years. This past season, we happened to be leading much of the game which meant it didn't make sense for Drew to throw up gaudy passing numbers.
 
OP
OP
VikesFan2017

VikesFan2017

Veteran Starter
VIP Contributor
Joined
Jan 8, 2018
Messages
778
Reaction score
1,581
Offline
Hey...where did the OP go?
Sorry to make it look like a flame and run. I had to run my kid to an event then I watched a HS football game last night. I have a decent post history to show I'm not just here to flame.



Even if that's true, the last Atlanta game was in November. Do they really think he had THAT severe of an injury that it would still be affecting him nearly 10 months later? Sheldon Rankins tore his Achilles in mid-January and even he has been practicing all week. Even if Brees was playing through an injury after the ATL game last season, they really think it hasn't healed by now? Wouldn't he have had off-season surgery if it had really been that bad?

If you want to say Brees will finally tail off, then yeah, I guess one of these years that statement will be true unless he wins it all and pulls an Elway. But the "injured in Atlanta and will still be affected by it this year" theory is balderdash and poppycock (they don't let us curse on this board).

Good luck vs. the Falcons.
In my original post, that's why I was trying to inquire if there was any "rumor" or "substance" to this. Or at least a starting point as to what they were referring to. I don't know what the injury would have been to be that severe. Didn't make sense to me, so thought I'd come to the source and ask you guys if this was something people chattered about at all. As mentioned, O-line concerns can affect a QB's play. (Look at the Vikings last year).


I see your rumor with simple facts:

2018 74.4 Comp Pct 32 TD 5 INT 115.7 QBR
2017 72 Comp Pct 23 TD 8 INT 103.9 QBR
2016 70 Comp Pct 37 TD 15 INT 101.7 QBR
2015 68.3 Comp Pct 32 TD 11 INT 101 QBR

Please point out the decline would ya?

I heard a rumor that sports radio in Minny is full of boobs (and not the good kind...)
We do have our share of boobs on radio here including our play by play guy "Paul Allen" who came up with this rumor. He's an over-the-top homer. I agree that his production doesn't show injury as I mentioned in my first post. Just wanted to see if this was a rumor people had heard down there.

The rumor of Drew being in decline the last 5 year's is quite funny. It is far better than what Cousins has produced in his prime. Any QB who has played or ever will play would be thrilled with those numbers. They are better than what any QB has ever produced and will get you to the Hall of Fame.
I would take Brees over Cousins this season and next.

Why do you guys and girls listen to this stuff and give it any credibility? I’m really not trying to be critical. Forgive me if it comes across that way.

For many, many years I listened to all the shows and took the bait. I get it. I had to consume as much media info about my team as I could.

Today I just don’t really care what they have to say, good or bad. I watch the games and form my own opinion.

The media knuckleheads are competing for listeners/internet clicks, etc. They say whatever it takes to achieve that. Do yourself a favor and ignore them.

I don't listen to it much, but yesterday with it being the last weekday before the opener I listed for a bit and was just surprised to hear it. That's why I posted. If you listen to TV and Radio people enough, eventually you'll find someone who agrees with exactly what you are thinking, and 20 people who feel differently.

I am a transplant from NOLA up here in Lino Lakes, MN.... This, this, this!!! I can't tell you how many times I've said this to friends of mine that are Vikings fans.... If they would have kept Keenum, it's absolutely certain that there fortunes would be way different( he balled out in that season he played with them and the players rallied around him!!!!).. Kirk Cousins is a me first player that is way overrated(and chokes in big games:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:).. Trust me when I say, the locals are extremely jealous and bitter about that playoff loss in '10.. Butthurt would be the proper expression.. They hate Sean Payton with extreme fervor:cool:(y)... They are extremely jealous that we have Brees;):100:.. Whodat for life!!!
Hello fellow Minnesotan!
I don't think keeping Keenum would have gotten us to the Super Bowl, so rolling the dice was the right option.
If you are saying Keenum might have won more games than Kirk last year, I may agree with you. But no Super Bowl appearance. Had to go for broke with Cousins.

Yeh, a lot of people do hate Sean Payton. And some can't get over 2010 and won't until we make a Super Bowl.
 

Create an account or login to comment

You must be a member in order to leave a comment

Create account

Create an account on our community. It's easy!

Log in

Already have an account? Log in here.

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 1)



Headlines

Top Bottom