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[Goatman Saint]

The USA can take up the slack. The problem is we have to get rid of programs that pay farmers not to grow crops
on their land. It's a policy I never fully understood.

Not easily. Contracts are already signed for this growing season and winter wheat is already planted. Spring wheat may possibly be able to take up some slack, but that’s not always possible to grow in the Midwest due to differences in precipitation as wheat is generally not irrigated. It’s also too late to plant in California as it’s generally grown during the winter here.

Now large agricultural companies may abuse the taking land out of production, but I know more than a few small farmers in Montana that have used that to take out marginally productive land and let it return to native grasses, marsh or bogs, that sort of thing which helps in the long run as it restores a balance.

 

[CrowFlies]

trying to quote....dont see anything.

 

[CrowFlies]

The Native tribes taught settlers to pull weeds and place them between the rows of crops to provide nutrients. Yes, our ancestors and those on the land before Anglo-Saxon extermination knew how to work the land because they were OF the land.

yes. agree fully.

land today has been stripped of minerals and nutrients leaving what is grown
on same land to be lacking minerals and nutrients also.
the land is tired of machines and moving for man Constantly. there is no rest
for the land, too many 2legs to feed.

the mayans destroyed their own habitat by doing what we continue to do today.
this time is is global. running out of food and healthy land is not limited it is global now.

 

[faceman]

yes. agree fully.

land today has been stripped of minerals and nutrients leaving what is grown
on same land to be lacking minerals and nutrients also.
the land is tired of machines and moving for man Constantly. there is no rest
for the land, too many 2legs to feed.

the mayans destroyed their own habitat by doing what we continue to do today.
this time is is global. running out of food and healthy land is not limited it is global now.

High nitrogen fertilizer also kills earthworms. They are part of natures way of soil maintenance. . Leave them alone
without chemical interference and they'll turn a field of red clay into beautiful topsoil in a few years

 

[CrowFlies]

prolly one of the craziest things ive read. to BLAME these animals is INSANE.

you got massive human 2leg pop desiring food, Meat...killing all animals to eat
for din-din yet griping now that same animal life causes them illness. wtf.

talk about COGNITIVE DISSONANCE. I cant grasp how 2legs can be so
destructive of how they live while demanding the same...currency to live that way.
UFB.
There Are Countries doing things DIFF now to save repair and continue modest
methods of living. but not here which is maya2. SMH.

https://twitter.com/i/events/1509929519800467459

Feral pigs are biological time bombs. Can California stem their ‘exponential’ damage?

 

[CrowFlies]

so,..WTF gets....the..letters...fork....??? ok.

 

[faceman]

prolly one of the craziest things ive read. to BLAME these animals is INSANE.

you got massive human 2leg pop desiring food, Meat...killing all animals to eat
for din-din yet griping now that same animal life causes them illness. What the Fork!.

talk about COGNITIVE DISSONANCE. I cant grasp how 2legs can be so
destructive of how they live while demanding the same...currency to live that way.
UFB.
There Are Countries doing things DIFF now to save repair and continue modest
methods of living. but not here which is maya2. SMH.

https://twitter.com/i/events/1509929519800467459

Feral pigs are biological time bombs. Can California stem their ‘exponential’ damage?

We are at the top of the food chain. There is no reason to be ashamed of it.

 

[CrowFlies]

We are at the top of the food chain. There is no reason to be ashamed of it.

sorry but that does not apply today. no grain no meat no humans.
the amount of grain to feed animal to feed humans...totally out of whack.
why such a push to feed plant food vs animal food.
im not saying thats bad, saying its a manipulation...they cant meat feed today.

 

[B4YOU]

Foggy day on DC waterfront.

 

[faceman]

On

sorry but that does not apply today. no grain no meat no humans.
the amount of grain to feed animal to feed humans...totally out of whack.
why such a push to feed plant food vs animal food.
im not saying thats bad, saying its a manipulation...they cant meat feed today.

once again, the USA can cure it. We just need the government to let farmers farm their land. Get rid of these corporate
companies getting paid not to farm them

 

[faceman]

Not easily. Contracts are already signed for this growing season and winter wheat is already planted. Spring wheat may possibly be able to take up some slack, but that’s not always possible to grow in the Midwest due to differences in precipitation as wheat is generally not irrigated. It’s also too late to plant in California as it’s generally grown during the winter here.

Now large agricultural companies may abuse the taking land out of production, but I know more than a few small farmers in Montana that have used that to take out marginally productive land and let it return to native grasses, marsh or bogs, that sort of thing which helps in the long run as it restores a balance.

This is true. It just has to end.

 

[SamAndreas]

Foggy day on DC waterfront.

That's a really nice calm photo for the Earth thread.



There's a place near Big Fork on the inlet for Flathead Lake in Montana that looks like that on a foggy morning.

Being there means being a 1/2 mile from a bar that is open 24 hours a day, and an eatery. Pressure fried 1/2 chickens. with 4 pound potato JoJo's, coleslaw.

But they have a band!

Because of the eatery the women there are,,, well... larger used women. But they'd be good granola liberals. They would certainly sort recycling from the trash. They'd maintain an ecokoser home.



If one is into that!

 

[Goatman Saint]

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once again, the USA can cure it. We just need the government to let farmers farm their land. Get rid of these corporate
companies getting paid not to farm them

There are a lot of different ways to look at this though. First, it keeps up prices. For all the talk of food shortages, the United States has massive quantities of grain on hand, more than enough to get through with some good foresight. Also, while Russia may or may not be able to sell to most of the world, let’s face it India and China will still be open markets to their grain. It’s not like it’s going to go to waste. So, in my opinion this is nothing more than another scare tactic to drive up commodity prices. It’s worked well on everything else so far. Second, the world’s hunger isn’t a production issue, it’s a transportation/logistics issue. How do you get stores of grain from one place to another? In Ukraine, it’s not such an issue because of established roadways and transport. This conflict won’t last much more than a month more, Russia can’t afford it.
Third, there is a lot of land which does need to be taken out of production. There is land that is worn out, land with saline problems, wetland restoration, things like this. There are also environmentally fragile areas that farmers have used this to set aside for native species. In the beginning maybe farmers were looking at taking out whole fields. But nowadays, the focus has been waterway restoration, focus on returning watersheds to health and keeping fertilizer usage and such away from waterways. Also, as I’ve said using it for returning species to more native things helping the animals that live near there.

Yes 23.85 million acres is a lot of land (about 1/10th). But, as I’ve said the shortages aren’t here, and production off those 255million acres is at an all time high

 

[Eeyore]

I am familiar with this. My ancestors in GA. grew watermelons as a cash crop for many years. They required a lot of
nutrients. The way they offset it was to plant peas between the rows. The peas replaced the nutrients the melons
took. Soil management isn't the problem. Our ancestors knew how to handle it

Until the 1920's

What we learned from the Dust Bowl: lessons in science, policy, and adaptation

This article provides a review and synthesis of scholarly knowledge of Depression-era droughts on the North American Great Plains, a time and place known colloquially as the Dust Bowl era or the Dirty Thirties. Recent events, including the 2008 financial ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[faceman]

Until the 1920's

What we learned from the Dust Bowl: lessons in science, policy, and adaptation

This article provides a review and synthesis of scholarly knowledge of Depression-era droughts on the North American Great Plains, a time and place known colloquially as the Dust Bowl era or the Dirty Thirties. Recent events, including the 2008 financial ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

That's a drought though. We have no control there either. Under normal weather we have plenty of land to grow food.