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Folks. The government needs to extend this till November at least. I’m afraid America will go to a very dark place if we do not. The Economists all agree it needs to be extended. I’m not going to get political on this board but if we don’t help those that are still in need it is going to get really bad. High crime, riots, more protests, even a major stock market crash could happen. Pray Congress does the right thing and extends unemployment.
 
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I'm with you. I had two or three weeks without work and I was supposed to have a five week stretch. I saw it as a once in a lifetime opportunity to have that kind of paid time off. I ended up getting put on special projects at reduced hours. The guys who were laid off ended up bringing home more money than I did and they had all of that time. 😔
Without insurance/benefits?
 

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o. m. g. i still make *too much", as a single male, paying more in credit card debt, hospital related, which allowed more time with my wife, i'm ok with that still, but, not eligible for anything? that debt is more than 2/3 my salary.

this system isn't just flawed, but 100% forked up.

i Iwork my arse off to pay off my wife's medical debt, only because "the best" md anderson was the greatest.

fork them and fork everything about them. what a crock of sheet.

those "genius doctors" did absolutely nothing. my credit cards say that they like money.

unless they diagnoses, perform surgery, you are basically a test subject.

i cannot stress this enough.
 

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We shouldn't be printing trillions of dollars to give to them, either. The feds are literally stealing our wealth without ever touching our assets.
I’m not disagreeing with that. I just think in this case, and in others, you have people whose lives are being destroyed because of this virus. Not only health wise, but asset wise. I’m not saying the government should pick up the bill for all the toys on credit and what have you. But, I do think it’s wrong when people can’t eat, can’t get or maintain insurance, can’t hold onto assets they have worked for years for to be destroyed in this situation. If and extra 600 bucks may keep someone in their house and food on the table, then that’s what should be happening.
 

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o. m. g. i still make *too much", as a single male, paying more in credit card debt, hospital related, which allowed more time with my wife, i'm ok with that still, but, not eligible for anything? that debt is more than 2/3 my salary.

this system isn't just flawed, but 100% forked up.

i Iwork my arse off to pay off my wife's medical debt, only because "the best" md anderson was the greatest.

fork them and fork everything about them. what a crock of sheet.

those "genius doctors" did absolutely nothing. my credit cards say that they like money.

unless they diagnoses, perform surgery, you are basically a test subject.

i cannot stress this enough.
When I had Guillain-Barre in December, 2000 I was IMO criminally misdiagnosed initially. The hospital stay ended up costing nearly $100,000 and during the stay they almost killed me twice

They never saw a penny of my money. fork them
 

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Looks like whatever momentum that was had has been lost.

I think there will be a gap in coverage and there will be some short term pain.

If you're collecting Unemployment, I hope you've socked some money away, it's going to get dry...
 

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I’m not disagreeing with that. I just think in this case, and in others, you have people whose lives are being destroyed because of this virus. Not only health wise, but asset wise. I’m not saying the government should pick up the bill for all the toys on credit and what have you. But, I do think it’s wrong when people can’t eat, can’t get or maintain insurance, can’t hold onto assets they have worked for years for to be destroyed in this situation. If and extra 600 bucks may keep someone in their house and food on the table, then that’s what should be happening.
Forcing businesses to close [rather than allowing markets to invent solutions] created this economic disaster. Maybe it was the right thing to do, maybe it wasn't. All I know for sure is that 2020 will be studied for decades.
 

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Forcing businesses to close created this economic disaster. Maybe it was the right thing to do, maybe it wasn't. All I know for sure is that 2020 will be studied for decades.
Imo, it was the right thing to do, and still is the right thing to do. It would have been far more effective if we had screened everyone coming into the country and contact tracing/quarantining new cases back when this was all manageable and shut down completely for a month when it became apparent that community spread started happening. Too little too late now though.
 

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Folks. The government needs to extend this till November at least. I’m afraid America will go to a very dark place if we do not. The Economists all agree it needs to be extended. I’m not going to get political on this board but if we don’t help those that are still in need it is going to get really bad. High crime, riots, more protests, even a major stock market crash could happen. Pray Congress does the right thing and extends unemployment.
They will not pass a new plan for $600. They will pass a plan that pays 70% of your gross earnings, with a not to exceed dollar amount, which I have not seen, or read yet. Add in the state’s max and it should help all those still unemployed. There is also an incentive based payment being discussed as a supplemental amount, of $450/week, to encourage many to take lesser paying jobs and to just get back to work.

My concern is, there may be jobs available for a lot of people to consider, but most of the jobs out there will be part time jobs without any benefits. The $450 supplemental pay will not go a long way, especially when perspective employers know the $450 will be in play. It will create a situation, where even part time pay will be reduced, per hour! There is no easy answer, until a vaccine is found, or it just goes dormant.
 
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Imo, it was the right thing to do, and still is the right thing to do. It would have been far more effective if we had screened everyone coming into the country and contact tracing/quarantining new cases back when this was all manageable and shut down completely for a month when it became apparent that community spread started happening. Too little too late now though.
Well there were too many varied “expert” opinions at the beginning, when all of this was just coming out the blocks. It is a novel virus. It was unknown. There was not a lot of facts being passed on to the rest of the world by the Chinese, which was a detriment. The rest of the world had to learn and try to come to grips with it by the seat of their pants. In hindsight, many of the steps you have written, are now certainly obvious. And once we get thru this, everyone will certainly be an expert!!!
 

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o. m. g. i still make *too much", as a single male, paying more in credit card debt, hospital related, which allowed more time with my wife, i'm ok with that still, but, not eligible for anything? that debt is more than 2/3 my salary.

this system isn't just flawed, but 100% forked up.

i Iwork my arse off to pay off my wife's medical debt, only because "the best" md anderson was the greatest.

fork them and fork everything about them. what a crock of sheet.

those "genius doctors" did absolutely nothing. my credit cards say that they like money.

unless they diagnoses, perform surgery, you are basically a test subject.

i cannot stress this enough.
So you are saying Dr’s are experimenting on people, and defrauding everyone? I guess then, it makes all of your medical concerns going forward easier.
 

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Well there were too many varied “expert” opinions at the beginning, when all of this was just coming out the blocks. It is a novel virus. It was unknown. There was not a lot of facts being passed on to the rest of the world by the Chinese, which was a detriment. The rest of the world had to learn and try to come to grips with it by the seat of their pants. In hindsight, many of the steps you have written, are now certainly obvious. And once we get thru this, everyone will certainly be an expert!!!
Maybe, but, if you go back to early in our original thread where a few people were ridiculing China completely shutting things down and thinking they were dumb for doing that. We had other people in the thread saying very early on that some form of a lockdown was needed back then, but by the time stay at home orders were given, the train had already left the station and there was no turning back at that point. Looking back, we now know, based on what New Zealand and other countries who have successfully dealt with the virus that shutting things down early is the best way to prevent community spread. We knew it was coming and did little to stop it. There were plenty of warning signs as far back as January. And certainly, we have assets on the ground overseas to verify this stuff was real long before it arrived in our country.

There clearly were warning signs. We were talking about superspreaders in late January iirc. Cases had started making their way into Europe by then. If we on SR knew about it by then, authorities at the federal level were likely well aware of this weeks, if not months earlier. Just collective heads in the sand imo.
 

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Well there were too many varied “expert” opinions at the beginning, when all of this was just coming out the blocks. It is a novel virus. It was unknown. There was not a lot of facts being passed on to the rest of the world by the Chinese, which was a detriment. The rest of the world had to learn and try to come to grips with it by the seat of their pants. In hindsight, many of the steps you have written, are now certainly obvious. And once we get thru this, everyone will certainly be an expert!!!
SMH...so this will be the rhetoric huh. Odd how all countries but the USA figured it out.
 

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They will not pass a new plan for $600. They will pass a plan that pays 70% of your gross earnings, with a not to exceed dollar amount, which I have not seen, or read yet.


This would actually be a decent compromise, but it will only work IMO if it’s a blanket 70% of the original $600 , rather than having each state trying to figure out what 70% of each one of the 52 million currently unemployed people’s salary was prior to the pandemic.. there’s just no way with The current systems and manpower that that could be done efficiently enough to get Unemployment checks to people in a year, much less within the next few weeks... As i mentioned earlier in the thread, what’s ’fair’ should be a component , but the rule of the day moving forward needs to be simplicity.
 

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