Florida Principal Out After Viewing Of Michelangelo's 'David' Upsets Parents (1 Viewer)

[Sailorsaint]

While I think anybody who has a problem with the statue of David is an idiot, let's stop acting like that is what got her terminated. She got terminated for not following a regulation requiring her to notify parents. The former principal fully admits that she failed to do so.

Whether that is enough for being terminated is a different debate and would depend on what else is in her work record (which we don't know), but saying she lost her job for showing students the statue of David is a false narrative.

That may have been part of the reason, but let's not fool ourselves....it wasn't an issue until a parent complained about the statue itself.

 

[Boy_of_wonder75]

While I think anybody who has a problem with the statue of David is an idiot, let's stop acting like that is what got her terminated. She got terminated for not following a regulation requiring her to notify parents. The former principal fully admits that she failed to do so.

Whether that is enough for being terminated is a different debate and would depend on what else is in her work record (which we don't know), but saying she lost her job for showing students the statue of David is a false narrative.

A parent called it 'pornographic'. What ought to have happened is that parent should have been laughed at and ignored.

My favorite part of the article is when the head of the local school board said, "We don't use pronouns." These people reveal themselves to be among the most stupid on the planet.

 

[Dago]

So basically there shouldn't be consequences for not following an employers rules and regulations when we don't agree with it.
Gotcha

 

[Sailorsaint]

So basically there shouldn't be consequences for not following an employers rules and regulations when we don't agree with it.
Gotcha

So, you think the principal should have been fired because the staff forgot to send out the info to the parents? No other reason, just that reason right there? And this is the third principal in 2 years? Yeh, there's no red flags there at all.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

So basically there shouldn't be consequences for not following an employers rules and regulations when we don't agree with it.
Gotcha

Yeah!!!!

Lets say she's solely responsible because parents for a single class wasn't notified of the display, does that warrant her being fired? Mind you, it wasn't a permission slip for a field trip, it was a notification that a historical piece was going to be presented to students.

The reactions by those parents and school board are just stupid. But hey, that's just par for the course.

edit: what SailorSaint said

 

[Sailorsaint]

And if I read the report correctly, the parent wasn't complaining that the notice wasn't sent to her, she was complaining about her child viewing a piece of art that she didn't approve of.

 

[Dago]

So, you think the principal should have been fired because the staff forgot to send out the info to the parents? No other reason, just that reason right there? And this is the third principal in 2 years? Yeh, there's no red flags there at all.

Who else would be responsible?

I am probably the only one in here who has actually owned and run a school. You have no idea what can happen when you fail to follow your own policies and procedures...its pretty much an invitation to a lawsuit.

For all we know she already had write ups in her file or perhaps the school was already on probation.

I'm not saying the school was right or wrong...I am saying that ignoring the fact that policies and procedures were not followed (which for all we know may be a pattern under her tenure) is ignorant and close minded

 

[Dago]

And if I read the report correctly, the parent wasn't complaining that the notice wasn't sent to her, she was complaining about her child viewing a piece of art that she didn't approve of.

Which would not have happened if policies and procedures had been followed

 

[Dago]

Yeah!!!!

Lets say she's solely responsible because parents for a single class wasn't notified of the display, does that warrant her being fired? Mind you, it wasn't a permission slip for a field trip, it was a notification that a historical piece was going to be presented to students.

The reactions by those parents and school board are just stupid. But hey, that's just par for the course.

edit: what SailorSaint said

Yes because in the case of a lawsuit it's the teacher they go after.
It is the job of a principle or director to oversee the curriculum and ensure that policies and procedures are followed. Period.
What the hell are they there for otherwise?

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Yes because in the case of a lawsuit it's the teacher they go after.
It is the job of a principle or director to oversee the curriculum and ensure that policies and procedures are followed. Period.
What the hell are they there for otherwise?

This isn't about curriculum, it's about control and I thought we were supposed to be a free country. Freedom of choice is being taken away from many in this country with the approval of many its willfully ignorant citizens.

 

[Boy_of_wonder75]

Who else would be responsible?

I am probably the only one in here who has actually owned and run a school. You have no idea what can happen when you fail to follow your own policies and procedures...its pretty much an invitation to a lawsuit.

For all we know she already had write ups in her file or perhaps the school was already on probation.

I'm not saying the school was right or wrong...I am saying that ignoring the fact that policies and procedures were not followed (which for all we know may be a pattern under her tenure) is ignorant and close minded

They ought to have *begged* this woman to sue. Can you imagine having to say in front of other people you found the statue of David pornographic?

 

[rajncajn]

While I think anybody who has a problem with the statue of David is an idiot, let's stop acting like that is what got her terminated. She got terminated for not following a regulation requiring her to notify parents. The former principal fully admits that she failed to do so.

Whether that is enough for being terminated is a different debate and would depend on what else is in her work record (which we don't know), but saying she lost her job for showing students the statue of David is a false narrative.

Was just coming to say this very same thing. We may not agree with the parents that complained on what should be considered improper, but as a school you still should have to respect their decisions by requesting permission. It's not the school's responsibility to make those decisions without the parents consent.

 

[Dago]

This isn't about curriculum, it's about control and I thought we were supposed to be a free country. Freedom of choice is being taken away from many in this country with the approval of many its willfully ignorant citizens.

So people should have the freedom to not follow the rules they disagree with when they take a job (even tho part of being hired is agreeing to follow the rules and regulation of the employer)?

That's asinine

 

[Dago]

They ought to have *begged* this woman to sue. Can you imagine having to say in front of other people you found the statue of David pornographic?

You are displaying your ignorance. That wouldn't even be a matter of substance. The only thing that would matter is that the school didn't follow its own rules and regulations

 

[Sailorsaint]

Was just coming to say this very same thing. We may not agree with the parents that complained on what should be considered improper, but as a school you still should have to respect their decisions by requesting permission. It's not the school's responsibility to make those decisions without the parents consent.

It was a notice, it was not a request for the parents permission.