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The thing is, you never know how a player will perform with a different team,coaches,and schemes. Leinart and VY may have flourished under Payton's tutelage. Maybe. Will never know.
Maybe, but we would not have come as far as we have so quickly. And Payton didn't have to teach Brees to be a leader of men...that's natural to him. Clearly, neither Leinart or VY is the leader that Brees is and never will be. Brees leadership has as much to do with the Saints success as his skill.