Former Saint QB Chase Daniel - leading men to Christ. A great read! (1 Viewer)

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I guess there's nothing in the good book about throwing a tight spiral!

 

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[whodatdds84]

How did I know this would turn into a bunch of arguing.

That truly wasn't my intention, I just thought it was a pretty cool story and I liked Chase while he was here, he was pretty decent for us.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

I bet a scroll would be pretty easy

Nice

 

[Furious One]

If you think I'm going to sit here and try to "enlighten" you when you've proven to be a religious zealot already, you're sadly mistaken.

Didn't take long for the name calling to start...

 

[Galbreath34]

I'm Christian and have no problem with the story. I do wonder how many would be excited about it if it was the heartwarming story of a young quarterback converting 5 of his teammates to Islam.

Actually, I think many of the same people would actually be excited about it, and more, just in a different way.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

I'm Christian and have no problem with the story. I do wonder how many would be excited about it if it was the heartwarming story of a young quarterback converting 5 of his teammates to Islam.

Actually, I think many of the same people would actually be excited about it, and more, just in a different way.

Ta'ayush

 

[Cajun Chat]

That truly wasn't my intention, I just thought it was a pretty cool story and I liked Chase while he was here, he was pretty decent for us.

It seems things get posted on the main board about players that sexually assault, murder, rob others etc. and it stays. You post something about someone doing good and it gets moved. Sad that we have given into the world's demands.

 

[RetroMcBananaFace]

Uh,you don't think bringing someone to Christ is not charity?

No, charity is helping someone and expecting nothing from them in return.

My church, which is located in a neighborhood that is largely below the poverty line, feeds breakfast to high school kids in the gymnasium every morning. There is no preaching, no lesson. Just breakfast. And probably 95% of those kids never set foot in the church otherwise.

But that's OK, because they're not doing it to get them to come to church. They're doing it because it's the right thing to do.

That is charity.

 

[billinms]

No, charity is helping someone and expecting nothing from them in return.

My church, which is located in a neighborhood that is largely below the poverty line, feeds breakfast to high school kids in the gymnasium every morning. There is no preaching, no lesson. Just breakfast. And probably 95% of those kids never set foot in the church otherwise.

But that's OK, because they're not doing it to get them to come to church. They're doing it because it's the right thing to do.

That is charity.

A lot of churches do such charity, after Katrina I was amazed by the number of church groups from around the country that came down to help people clean, demolish, or rebuild. As far as the OP, believers will think that he's doing good works, and non believers shouldn't care either way. It's the disrespect towards Christians I don't care for.

 

[insidejob]

Didn't take long for the name calling to start...

Yeah. Obviously you've never been attacked and belittled by him just because you don't believe in his particular brand of Christianity.

And if you think calling him a zealot is name calling, you don't seem to realize that he is and wears it like a badge of honor.

 

[insidejob]

Are you not a 4 & 8 "zealot?" We all have a zeal about something. I just choose to put my zeal in a Man that made some outrageous claims, & then walked out of His own tomb to validate them. Merry Christmas.

No, I am not a Buddhist zealot. That would be against the very tenets of Buddhism.

I've never claimed Buddhism is the one and only path to God or spiritual enlightenment...because I don't believe it is.

So...no. I follow the Buddha's last words: Be a lamp unto yourself. All the while being a practicing Catholic. Buddhism is to acquire freedom from suffering in this lifetime and catholicism for the possible afterlife. I love my church and temple equally.

 

[RetroMcBananaFace]

It's the disrespect towards Christians I don't care for.

I agree to some extent, but I also don't think there's a huge pushback for the most part unless people feel it's being force-fed to them. Your average Christian probably doesn't really care for Jehovah's Witnesses coming to the door, right?

I wasn't trying to imply that other churches don't do great things along the same lines, just giving one example of what I see as a charitable act. The second you do something like that with an expectation, it ceases to be charity and becomes, for lack of a better word, some sort of transaction. JMHO of course.

 

[Furious One]

Yeah. Obviously you've never been attacked and belittled by him just because you don't believe in his particular brand of Christianity.

And if you think calling him a zealot is name calling, you don't seem to realize that he is and wears it like a badge of honor.

I don't know either one of you. And the way this is going I don't want to.

 

[saintmdterps]

No, I am not a Buddhist zealot. That would be against the very tenets of Buddhism.

I've never claimed Buddhism is the one and only path to God or spiritual enlightenment...because I don't belief it is.

So...no. I follow the Buddha's last words: Be a lamp unto yourself. All the while being a practicing Catholic. Buddhism is to acquire freedom from suffering in this lifetime and catholicism for the possible afterlife. I love my church and temple equally.

I didn't understand what "salvation" was until I followed the Buddha's words "All created things must decay. Work out your own salvation with diligence."

Buddhism is but one of many paths to salvation. Live and let live. No one comes to Temple, Mosque, Church, or Synagogue, or Sweat Lodge and is immediately rendered perfect. We all come to work on our own human frailties. Salvation is a process, not an event.

If what Chase Daniels does helps these men to better themselves then I'm all for it. If it's a walk in the forest to commune with Wakan Tanka, wonderful. For some it may be simply sitting and being present in the moment, watching one's breath in and out. Perhaps it's studying the Torah or the Qur'an and understanding the true meaning of Brotherhood.

It's Christmas, and Charity by any name is sadly underrepresented in this world.