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Fort Hood soldiers breaking the silence in war in Iraq

2/17/2008 10:53 PM
By: Chelsea Hover

A growing number of active duty soldiers or recent Iraq war veterans are speaking up about the war in Iraq.

And with the number of soldiers speaking up about their experiences in Iraq via online forums, blogs and pamphlets, some vets feel it's their duty to let the American public know the truth.

"The honest truth is that if the American people knew what was going on over there everyday, they would be raising their voices too. They would be saying, 'Hey, bring those guys home," Sgt. Selena Coppa said.


http://news8austin.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=200673


Linked organization from article: Veterans Against the Iraq War

http://www.vaiw.org/vet/index.php
 

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Say, David, aren't those just left-leaning blogs that we should immediately ignore and discount because they're selectively sifting through facts to push their liberal agenda?
 

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In other news, some Catholics are not against contraception, some liberals love eating meat, some white people CAN dance, and some Hollywood actors are conservative.

But at least all strippers still have a heart of gold.
 

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Say, David, aren't those just left-leaning blogs that we should immediately ignore and discount because they're selectively sifting through facts to push their liberal agenda?
Let's see, the story is from News Channel 8, Austin.

Second paragraph contains a link to Veterans Against the Iraq War website.

We discussed them a couple of weeks ago in another thread.

They're, same bunch that brought us the bogus Army Ranger, Jesse MacBeth, who is now serving time for lying about being a decorated war veteran after telling everybody he systematically slaughtered Iraqi women and children. The closest he ever got Iraq was anti-war protests in Phoenix and Seattle.

Go to the VAIW "About Us" page, and you'll find it's organized and run by Vietnam Era folks, not Iraq War folks.
http://www.vaiw.org/vet/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2989

Jan Barry, who was in the U.S. Army from 1962-65
Igor Bobrowsky is a Purple Heart veteran of Vietnam (1967-68)
David Cline served in Vietnam in 1967 as a rifleman with the 25th Infantry Division
Diane Carlson Evans, RN, served in the U.S. Army Nurse Corps from l966-1972
John Greeley served in the U.S. Marines from 1963 to 1967 with a tour in Vietnam
Stewart Nusbaumer served with the 3rd Marine Division in Vietnam.
Barry Romo, former Army Infantry Lieutenant, served in the Americal Division (67-68) in Vietnam
Jaime Vazquez was with the 1st Marine Division in the Vietnam War where he was wounded
 
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In other news, some Catholics are not against contraception, some liberals love eating meat, some white people CAN dance, and some Hollywood actors are conservative.

But at least all strippers still have a heart of gold.
Indeed.

It isn't posted under the pretense that it's a shocking or unheard of revelation. Still, a relevant perspective.
 
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Old article on Mike Hoffman, Iraq War veteran who founded IVAW.

Breaking Ranks

After returning home to Pennsylvania, Mike Hoffman founded Iraq Veterans Against the War. "You realize that the people to blame for this are not the ones you are fighting."

News: More and more U.S. soldiers are speaking out against the war in Iraq -- and some are refusing to fight.

By David Goodman
Photographs by: Jeff Reidel

October 11, 2004

MIKE HOFFMAN would not be the guy his buddies would expect to see leading a protest movement. The son of a steelworker and a high school janitor from Allentown, Pennsylvania, he enlisted in the Marine Corps in 1999 as an artilleryman to “blow things up.” His transformation into an activist came the hard way—on the streets of Baghdad.

When Hoffman arrived in Kuwait in February 2003, his unit’s highest-ranking enlisted man laid out the mission in stark terms. “You’re not going to make Iraq safe for democracy,” the sergeant said. “You are going for one reason alone: oil. But you’re still going to go, because you signed a contract. And you’re going to go to bring your friends home.” Hoffman, who had his own doubts about the war, was relieved—he’d never expected to hear such a candid assessment from a superior. But it was only when he had been in Iraq for several months that the full meaning of the sergeant’s words began to sink in.


http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2004/11/10_400.html



Hoffman's organization:

http://ivaw.org/index.php
 

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Yeah, the TV news channel's story got them mixed up.

VAIW is a group of veterans from all wars. It's the people who run it are primarily Vietnam veterans.

IVAW is specifically Iraq War veterans. They're the group that MacBeth belonged to.

The flipside is the Iraq War Veterans Organization (IWVO), an advocacy group, rather than a dedicated anti-war group.

http://www.iraqwarveterans.org/
 

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Another advocacy group receiving attention on Capitol Hill is the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (IAVA). They're behind the push for a new, updated G.I. Bill.

http://www.iava.org/
 

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Fort Hood soldiers breaking the silence in war in Iraq

2/17/2008 10:53 PM
By: Chelsea Hover

A growing number of active duty soldiers or recent Iraq war veterans are speaking up about the war in Iraq.

And with the number of soldiers speaking up about their experiences in Iraq via online forums, blogs and pamphlets, some vets feel it's their duty to let the American public know the truth.

"The honest truth is that if the American people knew what was going on over there everyday, they would be raising their voices too. They would be saying, 'Hey, bring those guys home," Sgt. Selena Coppa said.


http://news8austin.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=200673


Linked organization from article: Veterans Against the Iraq War

http://www.vaiw.org/vet/index.php

I'm holding my breath for Channel 8 to report stories on the 95% of the returning veterans who have positive things to say about their mission there.

Seriously, two guys with two banners represents a "growing number" of soldiers speaking out against the war? The headline is misleading and there does not appear to be a whole lot of there, there.
 

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95% of the returning veterans who have positive things to say about their mission there.
I find this statistic rather dubious; you got a link for this claim? I can see where half or more than half would have such an opinion, but 95%?

Yes, maybe they had positive things to say about their mission, but what about the policy in Iraq and opinions on continuing the occupation?

There's a big difference about personal opinions about individual missions and the policy writ large. I think we need to make that distinction. As it reads, your arguing that a vast majority of returning vets support the current Bush policy.

Frankly, I find it hard to believe.
 

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