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Does anyone else think that Fred Thomas is washed up? That guy couldn't stick anyone last week, and I'm just glad he wasn't playing Sunday. :_rofl:
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Does anyone else think that Fred Thomas is washed up? That guy couldn't stick anyone last week, and I'm just glad he wasn't playing Sunday. :_rofl:
I think it had more to do with a safety blowing the coverage on one play then Chad Johnson beating him on a scramble drill in another. Amazing how good our corners look when we play Michael Vick and Roddy White instead of Chad Johnson and Carson Palmer.
Does anyone else think that Fred Thomas is washed up? That guy couldn't stick anyone last week, and I'm just glad he wasn't playing Sunday. :_rofl:
This has been beaten to death already. You can use the "SEARCH" feature and find at least 50 threads on the subject.
Freddy had one "bad" game against the Bengals, as any corner would when expected to cover Chad Johnson one-on-one with no safety help, and giving Palmer 8-10 seconds to throw. No cornerback can stay with an elite WR for 10 seconds. It just doesn't happen. Bullocks also blew his assignment on both deep balls.
Freddy is fine. If we had anything resembling a pass rush against the Bengals this would not even be a discussion.
I guess even in a magical season for the Saints someone has to be scapegoated
Thomas has been getting killed all year long. (well except the first Atlanta game).
I don't see that as a valid excuse.
Fred isn't a scapegoat. Hes hurt. He has a nagging injury. He is playing terribly. Thomas has not had 1 bad game. Hes been terrible every game since the first Falcons game (and he was bad in the 1st two before that).
I think its mostly the injury limiting his speed. Without it he is incapable of playing man to man. I don't question his mental skills as a CB but he is def. lacking the athletic ability to play the position. Its probably time for him to hang it up.
You keep saying this. What other game did he get killed in? Was it the one big pass to Galloway that he gave up when Bullocks bit on the play action against Tampa?
Good god, there are coverage responsibilities that every corner has. When you are in a cover 2 then that means you contain the WR for about 15-20 yards from the line of scrimmage and pass him off to the safety. At this point THE CORNERS RESPONSIBILITY CHANGES, he is now supposed to either pick up a TE or RB in front of him while the safety has deep coverage on the WR. This is the coverage we were in on Galloway's long TD and on the first long TD by Johnson. Blaming Thomas would be like blaming Will Smith for that.
Think about some of the corners we have played this year and what our WR's have done to them. Rhonde Barber- owned, Deangelo Hall- owned, Chris McCallister- owned, Al Harris- owned, Charles Woodson- owned, Chris Gamble- owned.
I think everyone expects a Champ Bailey type performance out of MM and Fred Thomas every week when in reality the corner position is no longer a position that can be shut down. The rules are very much in the WR's favor and the cb's have been getting toasted league wide. CB's will get beat, Fred Thomas is no different but he has been beat less than many of the "elite" corners around the league.
Does anyone else think that Fred Thomas is washed up?
No, I do not
Fred isn't a scapegoat. Hes hurt. He has a nagging injury. He is playing terribly. Thomas has not had 1 bad game. Hes been terrible every game since the first Falcons game (and he was bad in the 1st two before that).
I think its mostly the injury limiting his speed. Without it he is incapable of playing man to man. I don't question his mental skills as a CB but he is def. lacking the athletic ability to play the position. Its probably time for him to hang it up.
He was toasted in the Green Bay game by Jennings.
Toasted in the browns game (75 yard TD was called back because of a tacky holding call that everyone on this board admitted we got lucky on).
He gave up 10 passes to Carolina.
McNabb picked on him all game and he gave up several big pass plays in the 2nd half. Baltimore exclusively passed to his side of the field when we played them.
What I see is what I judge.
Thank god Galloway dropped the pass at the end of the game when he was running wide open after beating MM or we would have lost that game.